Cchords_sym
I have loaded the above fonts.
Now I would like to unlock the secret to using them. :)
For example, how would I enter Fmin7-5 (F with the slashed 'o').
Or GMaj7 (with the triangle).
And all the other Cchords_sym.
Is there a chart somewhere showing the shortcuts?
TIA
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Use http://musescore.org/en/handbook/plugins#Chord-Chart
Most direct way to get the answer is to run the chord chart plugin, find the chord you want, and double click it to edit - the text needed should appear. Or you could look at the file itself and see how it is set up - a search for "diminished" or "major" should yield the relevant lines. But my recollection is, you enter -7b5 to get the half diminished symbol, and ma7 to get the triangle. For 2.0, the need for separate chord description files goes away, and you'll be able to get the half diminished symbol at any time by typong 0 or the triangle with ^ or the letter "t".
In reply to Most direct way to get the by Marc Sabatella
Thanks Marc
I have installed the chord chart plugin but still could use a little guidance.
I have opened the plugin and can see all the chords symbols with their respective ID numbers.
I still don't know the quick way (or the slow way) to get these symbols into my score.
If I double click on a chord symbol that I have (G), and add either 't' or '^' I don't get the triangle, but the t or ^ instead.
I was able to get the half dim. (circle with slash) by typing D-7b5, but what is the shortcut to get that?
You mentioned Do, but when I type that I get Do and nothing else.
Also how would I get D dim?
How do I know if I have version 2.0?
TIA
In reply to Thanks Marc I have installed by ScoreMark
First, you don't have 2.0 - it doesn't exist yet. It is still in development, although you can use the download link at right of this page to download an experimental pre-release nightly build if you want to see what it might eventually look like. So no surprise that 0, ^, and "t" are not working for you.
Second, I think you are misunderstanding me regarding the chord chart. There is nothing you need to know beyond what I already said - no additional shortcuts to learn. Literally, double click on a chord symbol in the chord chart, it turns into text, and that tells you exactly what you need to type in order to get that chord. If you double click the half-diminshed chord, you'll see it turn into "-7b5". So now you know that you need to type "-7b5" to get a half diminished chord. There are no additional shortcuts to learn. It's exactly what the chord chart says it is. If you want to see how to get a given chord that appears in the chord chart, double click it and see for yourself, end of story. And if you don't see the chord in the chord chart, then it doesn't exist in that chord description file. You'll see the diminshed chord in cchords_sym is rendered with a superscripted circle and not "dim", so there is no way to get "dim" using that chord description file. To find out how to get the superscripted circle, double click it, and you'll see it turn into the letter "o", so now you know you should type "o" to get a diminished chord and it will be rendered with a superscripted circle.
Again, for 2.0 this all gets much simpler - type pretty much whatever you want and it will get understood, but for now, you have to live within the limits of whatever chord description file you have selected, and the best way to find those limits is to run the chord chart plugin and explore for yourself.
In reply to First, you don't have 2.0 - by Marc Sabatella
Hi Marc.
Thanks very much for your detailed explanation.
I got it now. :)
Part of my problem was that I didn't know *which* chord chart symbol to click on.
I had my own created score and was double clicking on my existing chord chart symbols.
That didn't show me anything. :)
I'm looking forward to release 2.0. It sounds like it will be a lot simpler to enter the chart symbols then.
Maybe a shortcut for half diminished could be:
'h' or '/' or maybe 'o/' ?
In reply to Hi Marc. Thanks very much for by ScoreMark
Slash is kind of taken, so that wouldn't work. I could add "h" to the list, I guess, but I chose "0" because in some conts at least, it already looks about right. Once upon a time, just about all fonts had a slash through the 0 character.
In reply to Slash is kind of taken, so by Marc Sabatella
" I could add "h" to the list, I guess, but I chose "0" because in some conts at least, it already looks about right. "
"h" would be nice, just one keystroke and easy to remember.
I'm confused about "0" though.
"0" is usually used for diminished and "0 with a slash" for half diminished.
Maybe you are talking about something else?
Were you thinking about using "0" for half dim.?
In reply to " I could add "h" to the by ScoreMark
The letter "o" (lower case) is what is used for diminished, and that won't change. It's the *number* "0" that will be used as the typeable abbreviation for half diminished, for the reason I stated - in many (mostly older) fonts, it actually does look like the half diminished symbol (ie, there is a slash through the "0" in many classic older fonts). It used to be quite common for people to use "0" cor half diminished when emailing chord charts as text files, for the same reason. I've never seen anyone actually use "h".
In reply to The letter "o" (lower case) by Marc Sabatella
"The letter "o" (lower case) is what is used for diminished, and that won't change. It's the *number* "0" that will be used as the typeable abbreviation for half diminished, for the reason I stated - in many (mostly older) fonts, "
OK, sounds good to me Marc.
I'd just have to remember lower 'o' is dim and upper 'zero' is half dim.
I guess the bracket above the zero can act as a reminder for the slash. :)