Moving Rests - How Difficult !?
I'm new to Muse, and accept that there may be some 'experience' required to get my head around some of the more advannced features, but ....
Something as simple as moving rests around within a bar should surely not require much of a conscious thought, should it ?
For example, my second bar I put in as crotchets.
Then i wanted to change them to quavers.
Once changed I get , understandably, rests between each.
Following another forum thread, I cut'n'pasted the notes, from after the breaks, to before the breaks.
Worked with the first notes I tried the technique on, was easy.
But when I tried the next set of notes, it just won't do it.
You can see I have a group of 4 quavers, then now need moving to before the rest preceding them,
However, when I cut the notes, they will not paste in place of the rest.
The cut action sees the notes disapear form the screen, then I select the left-most rest and 'paste', but absolutley nothing happens.
I've tried selecting the staff notes, selecting the tab notes, selecting the stems, the bar.... even banging the coffee table and cursing does not make it work !!
Seriously, in this day and age, why can't I just 'drag' and be done with it !?
Anyway ... any tips.. before I throw the laptop across the room, are welcome.
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The first thing I would suggest is use ctrl-x for cut and ctrl-v for paste. (ctrl=cmd on MAC). If this is what you've been doing, then apparently your shortcuts were changed.
see: https://musescore.org/en/handbook/selection-modes#shift-click-selection
In reply to see: https://musescore.org… by Shoichi
Shoichi, thank you :)
This method of selecting the group of notes does the trick.
I still feel a lot more conveluted than it needs to be, but for freeware I have to admit Muse is worth the effort to persevere with !
Given your swift d helpful reply, seems it has good community support too !
Thanks Again !
In reply to Shoichi, thank you :)… by Simonb2017
It's not just a freeware issue - it's the same with commercial programs. In order to move notes, the program needs to know both how many notes you want to move, and where you want to move them to. That is going to require separate actions no matter how you slice it. So there's no getting around the need for multiple steps if you want to tell any program "take the following set of notes and move them to this other location".
In reply to It's not just a freeware… by Marc Sabatella
Not being able to drag a note or notes to a new location for copy and paste is a design decision that is probably greatly impacted by the fact that this is freeware. The core group of programmers are more concerned with other things than such bells and whistles.
It's always more useful if you attach the actual score instead of a picture. But going from what I see, you have arest on the "&" of 1, so when you say you want the notes to come before the rest, I assume you literally don't want all four notes to come before that rest - they won't fit (they would need to be 32nd notes to get four of them within half a beat). So I assume you really mean you want them to start before the rest - in oterh words, to start on beat one? So, simply cut the notes, click the existing note you presumably want to get rid of on beat one, and paste.
It's also possible you don't really mean you want the notes to come before the "&" of 1, but you actually want them to replace the rest, with a new rest at the end of the passage. That's easy too. Just cut the notes, then click the existing rest and paste.
The key is to remember you aren't inserting things, you are replacing them. There is no such thing as inserting notes before a rest and having that very same rest move to the right. Instead, you simply put the noters where you want them. The rests take care of themselves - the existing one gets replaced automatically, new ones at the end of the measure are created automatically, etc.
Not sure what you mean when you say nothing happens when you paste; we'd need you to attach the actual score and the precise steps you are following in order to understand.
You wrote:
Seriously, in this day and age, why can't I just 'drag' and be done with it !?
(Hmmm.... how would a note that's 'dragged' into the score's title frame play back? Yikes!!)
Anyhow, the answer is:
Yes you can !! ...... errr, sort of.
Open this attachment in MuseScore:
Musical_vs_Graphical_0.mscz
My example originally came from here:
https://musescore.org/en/node/119241#comment-538886
which was part of a larger discussion:
https://musescore.org/en/node/119241
and:
https://musescore.org/en/node/103366
As you can see, you are not the first to ask. There are similar posts sprinkled throughout the forum.
Regards, and welcome aboard.