Changing a Trumpet to Sound Muted
When I pressed F10 to open the part list, I noticed that you can change the sound of a trumpet's part to sound muted. Is there a way to have one trumpet part play its normal trumpet sound and then change it to a muted sound while it is playing?
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Mixer, and changing instrument in its tab?
In reply to Perhaps using by Shoichi
How do you change the instrument in its tab?
In reply to How by Da4
to change the instrument during playback
See http://musescore.org/en/handbook/change-and-adjust-sounds#Mid-staff-cha…
... is similar to pizzicato for strings.
In addition to the handbook page, see:
http://musescore.org/en/node/12183
which explains pizz.
For trumpet just use 'mute' as the staff text and choose 'mute' under Staff Text Properties.
You may have to save and reload the score for the change to take effect.
Regards.
In reply to Muted trumpet during playback... by Jm6stringer
Running OS X 10.10.2, MuseScore NB c169cc2
I don't see how this function works as documented. I added staff text to trumpet and trombone parts, changing the text to read "Mute". I followed the instructions in the first attachment below that says to right-click and select Staff Text Properties, then says "mark the channel checkbox". I don't see a "channel checkbox", what I see is the dialog box in the second attachment. Has something changed about the user interface?
Thanks in advance!
In reply to Running OS X 10.10.2, by mjzwick
Oops, seems http://musescore.org/en/node/35961 need to get updated to show how this works in 2.0...
In reply to Oops, seems by Jojo-Schmitz
And maybe this one too needs to change
http://musescore.org/en/node/39041
In reply to And maybe this one too needs by Zynette
don't see why
In reply to don't see why by Jojo-Schmitz
It is also about mid staff change nope ?
In reply to Oops, seems by Jojo-Schmitz
Where can I find the correct procedure then?
In reply to Where can I find the correct by mjzwick
The existing one is not sooo far of that it wouldn't push you in the right direction, is it?
Your picture shoes the channels, and they are set to "normal". Just select 'mute' there
New is that you can now switch those channels per voice and not only per stave
In reply to The existing one is not sooo by Jojo-Schmitz
When I click on the "Normal" drop down for ANY of the voices, the only choice IS "Normal" (see first attachment). In the mixer I do have both regular and muted trumpet however (see second attachment). So how does one select "Mute" vice "Normal"?
In reply to When I click on the "Normal" by mjzwick
Are you sure the instrument is a trumpet?
Only trumpet and violin have options here
In reply to Are you sure the instrument by Jojo-Schmitz
You're right, I was on the trombone part. It works for my trumpet part.
:-( no muted trombones though!
Thanks for the help!
In reply to You're right, I was on the by mjzwick
Only trumpets (normal, mute) and strings (normal, pizzicato, tremolo, arco) have options here.
(well, cornets pipe organ and some synthesizers too)
Not sure whether GM has a separate sound for muted trombones, if it has, adding this option to instruments.xml should be easy
In reply to Only trumpets (normal, mute) by Jojo-Schmitz
It's not part of the basic set. The Level 2 spec calls for Trombone 1, Trombone 2, and Bright Trombone, and I imagine at least some soundfonts choose to make Trombone 2 muted. But I doubt you can count on it, and in any case, I suspect many if not most GM soundfonts don't support the full Level 2 range anyhow.
In reply to Are you sure the instrument by Jojo-Schmitz
I opened a score that just has muted trumpet and decided to give it a try. I go to staff text properties and change voice 1 to Mute (I also tried changing all voices to mute), click OK and nothing happens: it does not seem to save my selection of Mute instead of normal.
In reply to I opened a score that just by mjzwick
confirmed, looks like a bug to me...
Entered into the issue tracker: #47671: Setting 'mute' on a voice of a (trumpet) staff doesn't work
In reply to I opened a score that just by mjzwick
As discussed in the issue report, this isn't a bug, it's just a questionable design choice in the dialog. You have to actually press a button to say which voice you want to affect - merely selecting something in the dropdown isn't good enough. I'd love to see a better design, not sure if it's in the cards for 2.0 or not.
In reply to As discussed in the issue by Marc Sabatella
At least we'd need to get the handbook straight on this ;-)
In reply to As discussed in the issue by Marc Sabatella
To give you an idea about how confusing it is, after I saw this I pulled up the dialog again and stared it it for the "buttons" you mention until it occurred to me that you meant the four colored voice buttons next to the drop downs. Definitely not intuitive!
But also, I don't get the process. What happens if you select MUTE for voice 1 on the first drop down and normal on the second? What exactly is this odd 4x2 matrix trying to do?
Hopefully the documentation can explain this.
Thanks!
In reply to To give you an idea about how by mjzwick
Well, you can have 4 different sounds for the 4 possible voices.
In reply to Well, you can have 4 by Jojo-Schmitz
And a voice can be mapped against four different sounds at the same time?
In reply to And a voice can be mapped by mjzwick
don't thinks so, it it is used in one setting, it won't be available in another
In reply to don't thinks so, it it is by Jojo-Schmitz
Then the right way to do it would be to have four drop downs, one for each voice. There is no need to have all four buttons to the left. This eliminates mapping to multiple selections on the same voice or having to create the logic to prevent that in the application. It would be much clearer to the user as well.
In reply to Oops, seems by Jojo-Schmitz
Update done. ;-)
Muted trumpet, muted trombone ... Sure, and don't forget muted horn (as in French horn)! And stopped horn!! Surely it can't be that hard to find the freeware synthesized sounds, and to incorporate an easily selectable option that can be applied note-by-note? Please, please!
In reply to Muted trumpet, muted trombone by JAaronson
By all means, feel free to search for such sounds, and then you can use them! You can also create your own customized instruments.xml to allow these sounds to be accessed just as they are for trumpet. But note the General MIDI standard does not define any such sounds, which is why the standard soundfonts we supply don't use them and why the instruments.xml file we provided doesn't provide an option to select them.