Can we have a feature where we are able to have slurs on a chord such as a two-note, and have slurs on each of those notes like a tie. Especially when transcribing.
Because I think it is convenient and a part of music. Better than having two slurs and putting one above/below the chord and setting it where it can touch the note, I'm sure.
REMEMBER: I am trying to transcribe and match everything with a Beethoven Piano Sonata and I will tell you this, Beethoven loved to "two-slur-note" with his music.
Also, I thought we could beam before an after a system break in the score.
Consider showing an example of this notation to ensure you're not actually requesting ties; of which indeed multiples can go within a single chord, up to one for each note in it.
You can flip the position of a slur either in the inspector, or using the shortcut 'X' which will just about flip anything your select.
It is not that easy. The layouts...
Also, it would be appropriate if we could beam a note from a system break or page break, so we know that it is beamed.
"It is not that easy."
Please explain. I find it easy, and I use it all the time.
"Also, it would be appropriate if we could beam a note from a system break or page break, so we know that it is beamed."
That's a completely different topic, so please don't mix it in with this discussion. See: [https://musescore.org/en/node/307681]
[EDIT:] ... and see also the general topic in the Issue Tracker: #16278: Beaming notes over barlines and line breaks
Sorry for my lack of elaboration. What about a chord that has three notes and one of those notes are tied? I want a option where we can automatically connect the notes with the slur, or the hover over the beamed notes
Why can the notes be connected by the slurs by default (not by the stems), or have an option in the inspector that can connect the notes, rather than the stems?
Similar things have been suggested, like allow start and end notes on a slur to be specified so you won't normally need to flip a slur after you add it. Someone declared this archaic though I've seen enough of it that it should be an option.
It's not really clear to me what you mean here. The default already is to put slurs on the notehead side if the stem directions are consistent. And if the stem directions are not consistent, then there is no such thing as the notehead side or the stem side; both sides have noteheads as well as stems. But in any case, "X" flips from one side to the other, or if you prefer using the Inspector, change the Direction.
So if there is some other case you are missing, we'd need you to attach a sample score to demonstrate the issue.
The reference is to chords. Many publications have more than one slur when there are chords connecting note heads. This is possible in MuseScore by adjusting the slur positions but it sometimes fights you until you turn of auto placement.
The OP asked: "Why can't the notes be connected by the slurs by default (not by the stems), or have an option in the inspector that can connect the notes, rather than the stems?"
Anchoring a slur to the selected noteheads is a very reasonable suggestion for an extra option, and it is indeed of interest to anyone trying to make a faithful transcription of an older edition. As pointed out by @mike320: "This is possible in MuseScore by adjusting the slur positions but it sometimes fights you until you turn off auto placement."
Here's an example, showing an original edition (Kralik, not Beethoven), the required layout of the transcription, and how MuseScore does it by default.
OK, I see. There is a little confusion here. MuseScore doesn't actually have any concept of attaching slurs to individual notes, only to the full chord. So it isn't really about notehead vs stem, it's about whether the slur is attached to an individual note or to a chord. That's definitely a known limitation that has already been discussed. I thought this was a new request for something different that I wasn't understanding.
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It has automatic, above and below already, what more do you need?
In inspector that is...
In reply to It has automatic, above and… by Jojo-Schmitz
Can we have a feature where we are able to have slurs on a chord such as a two-note, and have slurs on each of those notes like a tie. Especially when transcribing.
In reply to Can we have a feature where… by Jjboss123
Why?
In reply to Why? by Jojo-Schmitz
Because I think it is convenient and a part of music. Better than having two slurs and putting one above/below the chord and setting it where it can touch the note, I'm sure.
REMEMBER: I am trying to transcribe and match everything with a Beethoven Piano Sonata and I will tell you this, Beethoven loved to "two-slur-note" with his music.
Also, I thought we could beam before an after a system break in the score.
In reply to Can we have a feature where… by Jjboss123
Consider showing an example of this notation to ensure you're not actually requesting ties; of which indeed multiples can go within a single chord, up to one for each note in it.
You can flip the position of a slur either in the inspector, or using the shortcut 'X' which will just about flip anything your select.
In reply to Consider showing an example… by jeetee
That way is not convenient for me and am trying to prevent. Please note, I am careful enough to request slurs, not ties.
In reply to That way is not convenient… by Jjboss123
Add slur, flip, add slur, voila
In reply to Add slur, flip, add slur,… by Jojo-Schmitz
It is not that easy. The layouts...
Also, it would be appropriate if we could beam a note from a system break or page break, so we know that it is beamed.
In reply to It is not that easy. The… by Jjboss123
"It is not that easy."
Please explain. I find it easy, and I use it all the time.
"Also, it would be appropriate if we could beam a note from a system break or page break, so we know that it is beamed."
That's a completely different topic, so please don't mix it in with this discussion. See: [https://musescore.org/en/node/307681]
[EDIT:] ... and see also the general topic in the Issue Tracker:
#16278: Beaming notes over barlines and line breaks
In reply to "It is not that easy."… by DanielR
Sorry for my lack of elaboration. What about a chord that has three notes and one of those notes are tied? I want a option where we can automatically connect the notes with the slur, or the hover over the beamed notes
In reply to Sorry for my lack of… by Jjboss123
Why not post an image of the passage you want to transcribe? "A picture is worth a thousand words", and that saves a lot of time...
In reply to Why not add an image of the… by DanielR
Okay.
Why can the notes be connected by the slurs by default (not by the stems), or have an option in the inspector that can connect the notes, rather than the stems?
In reply to Why can the notes be… by Jjboss123
Similar things have been suggested, like allow start and end notes on a slur to be specified so you won't normally need to flip a slur after you add it. Someone declared this archaic though I've seen enough of it that it should be an option.
In reply to Why can the notes be… by Jjboss123
It's not really clear to me what you mean here. The default already is to put slurs on the notehead side if the stem directions are consistent. And if the stem directions are not consistent, then there is no such thing as the notehead side or the stem side; both sides have noteheads as well as stems. But in any case, "X" flips from one side to the other, or if you prefer using the Inspector, change the Direction.
So if there is some other case you are missing, we'd need you to attach a sample score to demonstrate the issue.
In reply to It's not really clear to me… by Marc Sabatella
The reference is to chords. Many publications have more than one slur when there are chords connecting note heads. This is possible in MuseScore by adjusting the slur positions but it sometimes fights you until you turn of auto placement.
In reply to The reference is to chords… by mike320
The OP asked:
"Why can't the notes be connected by the slurs by default (not by the stems), or have an option in the inspector that can connect the notes, rather than the stems?"
Anchoring a slur to the selected noteheads is a very reasonable suggestion for an extra option, and it is indeed of interest to anyone trying to make a faithful transcription of an older edition. As pointed out by @mike320: "This is possible in MuseScore by adjusting the slur positions but it sometimes fights you until you turn off auto placement."
Here's an example, showing an original edition (Kralik, not Beethoven), the required layout of the transcription, and how MuseScore does it by default.
[EDIT:] See existing suggestions in the Issue Tracker:
#287686: Provide a way to attach a slur to a specific note within a chord
#296456: Unable to tie more than 2 notes
In reply to The OP asked: "Why can't the… by DanielR
OK, I see. There is a little confusion here. MuseScore doesn't actually have any concept of attaching slurs to individual notes, only to the full chord. So it isn't really about notehead vs stem, it's about whether the slur is attached to an individual note or to a chord. That's definitely a known limitation that has already been discussed. I thought this was a new request for something different that I wasn't understanding.