Cannot change repeat barline to any other type of barline in inspector
Hello all! I'm trying to put a repeat in one staff and not the other, and that's causing numerous problems. Currently, I have a workaround, but it's pretty terrible and I was wondering if there was any better way, or perhaps any other way to visually represent what I need.
Currently my process is this: add the repeat to the sections in question, and make both repeat barlines invisible for the staves that shouldn't have it. I then attach a "single barline" symbol from the master palette to the end repeat and something close to the start repeat (per this report, https://musescore.org/en/node/330631, no symbol can be attached to a start repeat barline, which I also experience to be the case), and I move the barlines into place. Should this happen at the end of the piece, per this recommendation https://musescore.org/en/node/308648, I do the same for the start barline and place repeat dots over those placed in the undesired staves. The result of both can be seen in the excerpt.mscz file, attached.
Obviously, this would be much better if I could change the type of barline from the inspector, but those dropdowns don't work for me when the line is a repeat barline. Am I missing something? Is there some other way to do this, either visually or mechanically?
Any help would be appreciated!
Richard
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" I'm trying to put a repeat in one staff and not the other, and that's causing numerous problems"
If the staves are linked, then a repeat barline must refer to all the staves. Otherwise the staves would need separate playback cursors to show where the music is currently playing on each staff.
Others will correct me if I am wrong, but IMHO what you are asking for breaks the rules of music notation.
In reply to " I'm trying to put a repeat… by DanielR
Using repeats only on select staves for independently repeating passages is actually pretty standard notational practice in scores that require it, as does mine (Elaine Gould's Behind Bars, p. 622). Would it change anything if I don't care about playback of the repeat?
In reply to Using repeats only on select… by davisrichard437
You can add a repeat barline from the Symbols palette (press "Z" to display). Then it's visual only.
In reply to You can add a repeat barline… by Marc Sabatella
This works, thank you!
Hello all! I'm trying to put a repeat in one staff and not the other, and that's causing numerous problems.
Well, you have 2 instruments, bracketed into a single system, so while instrument 1 repeats, what is instrument 2 supposed to do during instrument 1's repeat?
If instrument 2 remains silent, then instead of placing a repeat barline (which applies to all instruments in a system), you can use a different kind of repeat:
excerpt2.mscz
In reply to Hello all! I'm trying to put… by Jm6stringer
Thanks for your response! Your version doesn't convey what I'm trying to, it's a little more abstract than a literal repeat.
This is a piece for viola and live electronics, so the top staff isn't an actual instrument per se, but rather a representation of the sounds that will be played by the software. The performer is meant to finish the music in that measure and wait for the electronics to become inaudible. I'm trying to somewhat abstractly represent this with a repeat in the electronics measure and the diminuendo to niente.
I'm trying to represent that somehow. It doesn't necessarily have to be with the repeat, but that's the best I could come up with in the moment.
In reply to Thanks for your response!… by davisrichard437
I suspect that you might want to add performance instructions for this non standard idea.
In reply to I suspect that you might… by bobjp
I certainly intend to, though I would still like to visually represent it somehow in keeping with common practice with music like this.