MS4 -- MuseHub & MuseSounds... the Linux world
I use an HP "Thin client" computer which was running Ubuntu Linux 18.04. It ran MS3 flawlessly. "Thin client" systems are typically quite modest hardware; it just happens the one I have is "beefed-up" with memory and storage.
When I decided to start testing/looking-at MS4beta, neither MS4 OR MuseHub would run on my 18.04 operating system. So I upgraded to Ubuntu 20.04 to move forward. MS4 was the ONLY reason I upgraded...
When I figured out MuseHub was an independent application, and explored more, I think I understand 'Hub is the way MS4 gets its 'advanced' instrument sounds. "I'll start with woodwinds". Looks to me if I choose to add woodwinds MuseSounds, it will require 4.49Gb of space.
If the other instrument families are each quite large (as with the woodwinds)....... sorry, but now I'm going to have to consider BUYING a NEW COMPUTER. To accommodate this one program. And whatever I were to buy, it would need massive storage and high-end horsepower.
All I can say at this juncture is, "what a bummer". I've thrown all my eggs in the one basket called MuseScore, but some of us users simply don't have $1,500 or more to get a new computer system.
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Not saying this isn't an issue, but would you decide to buy a new computer, you don't need 1500$.
For 570$ you have a laptop i5 8GB memory 500GB SSD windows 11 MEDION® AKOYA® E15410
In reply to Not saying this isn't an… by frfancha
For these [beta] instruments via MuseHub, we have:
Woodwinds: 4.49Gb Strings: 5.08Gb Keyboards: .362Gb Harp: .097Gb Brass: 1.67Gb Percussion: 1.18Gb Choir: .602Gb Total: 13:38Gb
It sounds like MS4 will support VST's. Those can be disk- and memory-hungry. If I had the $1,500, I'd get a system with at least 32Gb of memory, 3-5TB of storage, and the fastest, i9, heck, an i11 CPU if it exists. But I don't have $1,500 -- not in today's world.
In reply to For these [beta] instruments… by Are Jayem
Again, there is no reason you need 32GB of RAM or 3 TB of storage. Not for MuseScore, anyhow. I run quite successfully with 8 GB of RAM and 64 GB of storage, and a years-old dual-core mobile processor. I've elected not to use up so much of that 64 GB with the full Muse Sounds on this machine. If I had 128 GB of storage, I'd install the whole thing without batting an eye. My other Linux machine has 256 GB so I'll set for life there.
As I observed earlier, all you really need is $20 for a new drive and you should be good to go. But if you're looking to replace your whole system for other reasons, $500 as mentioned elsewhere is more than enough. But that wouldn't be MuseScore forcing this on you - it would be your own personal choice. Again, you can run MU4 already. if you want Muse Sounds as well, $20 for a new drive does the job.
Woodwinds, FWIW, are the largest set by far. But, the whole thing will take about 15 GB. If you don't have that much space, you don't need a new computer, just a new hard drive. You can get a 100 GB drive for $20. But, you can certainly enjoy the other advantages of MU4 without that. As mentioned, it doesn't require massive horsepower - it's quite modest in its requirements.
In reply to Woodwinds, FWIW, are the… by Marc Sabatella
What was behind my transition TO MuseScore was MakeMusic Finale's quickening march towards bloatware. And, of course, the $$ required at ever upgrade. It grew insufferably problematic, with a growing number of crashes and errors, I had to get off that train. I guess all one can do is go with the flow and see where that leads.
It seems a universal journey; software gets to a point of solid performance and ease of use. Us composers get into the tool, use it, create, as fast as we can think. Then improvements & enhancements are implemented. Composers then have to fight with the tool.
In reply to What was behind my… by Are Jayem
The improvements in MU4 are specifically designed to make you fight less - to be easier to use. But this does indeed sometimes mean, users of previous versions might have to relearning a few things here and there. A small price short term for a big win long term.
Quick sidenote as well that (just like VSTs and other soundfonts) using MuseSounds is entirely optional. MuseScore 4 by default comes with the Basic MuseScore soundfont, which is pretty much equal to the current MS3 HQ soundfont.
I appreciate all who were diplomatic in response to my 'venting'. We will ALL see how MS4 looks, feels & operates when it's out of beta.