Bass to treble clef help
For now, there are two lines in the score. Both are for bass clef. I want the second line to be treble clef. When I make the bass a treble clef in the second line, a treble clef also appears at the end of the first line.
I don't want the treble clef at the end of the first line. But I haven't found a way to remove it without removing it from the second line, too. Any help, please?
Thanks in advance.
MuseScore2.0 Win Vista
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It's not really clear what you asking here. It sounds like maybe you are trying to create music for piano, so there are two lines - one treble, one bass - in parallel throughout your score. To do that, you should simply use the Piano template, or, when you are selecting instruments for your score, select the Piano. It seems you may have chosen an instrument that has only a single staff, so the lines you are seeing are not meant to be in parallel, but read one after the other.
If that doesn't answer your question, please post the score you are having trouble with, and be as specific as possible about what it is you are trying to do.
In reply to It's not really clear what by Marc Sabatella
Sorry for the vagueness.
I am creating a piano exercise for a beginner. I don't want to use the Grand Staff.
I want one line of music just for the left hand. Hence, I used MuseScore's bass staff template.
The second line of music would be just for the right hand. Of course, the second line is automatically rendered by the template with a bass signature. I can change that bass signature to a treble. But when I do that, the treble clef also appears at the end of the first line. I don't want the treble clef in the first line. Is there a way that can be done?
Do I need to use a different template? Or maybe I am stuck with the grand staff to get the effect I want.
If it's still unclear what I'm looking for, let me know again and I'll work on sending an attachment.
I'm a newbie with music notation software. I found the video tutorials on the homepage to be crystal clear and immensely helpful in getting me started. But it appears that what I'm trying to do is not newbie stuff.
Thank you for such a quick reply.
In reply to Sorry for the vagueness. I am by DanM
In MuseScore 2.0 (to be released later this month, but you can already use it if you download a nightly build from http://musescore.org/en/download#Nightly-versions), click on the clef you don't want and uncheck the "Visible" box in the Inspector. In MuseScore 1.3, you can secondary-click it and choose "Set Invisible" from the context menu. When an element is invisible, it will still show as shadowy gray in MuseScore, but when printed out or exported as a PDF or image, it will not be present.
You might also want to make use of a line break (in the Palettes on the left, under "Breaks & Spacer") to make sure that the line breaks exactly where you want it to.
By the way, I'd say that a newbie looking for advanced controls is soon to be a newbie no longer. Welcome to the MuseScore community—may you get much joy and long use from the software. ;-)
In reply to In MuseScore 2.0 (to be by Isaac Weiss
I read your and Marc's reply at the same time and you both got me to understand the Inspector. I didn't have it checked in the View menu probably because I didn't comprehend how it could be useful. Watching it do its job with different elements has gotten me to value it. I'm using ver2.0, and the Inspector worked like a charm.
I also learned that when I uncheck the Show Invisible item in the View menu, the grayed-out element becomes totally invisible. Like you said, it won't be printed either way, but it's nice to know I don't have to look at it if I don't want.
About the line break. Of course, the measure number appeared at the begining of the next line. I tried adding a section break with the line break, and the number disappeared. And now, after learning about the Inspector, I can disappear the number with the Inspector/View method (above).
This is getting to be fun.
Most of all, thank you for the warm welcome. I appreciate it. It makes me feel less like a leech. Maybe some day I'll be accomplished enough to pass something on to somebody else.
In reply to Sorry for the vagueness. I am by DanM
Ah, that makes sense now. The clef you are seeing at the end of the previous line is called a courtesy clef, and in "real music" (as opposed to exercise sheets), it is totally normal and correct to have them, or else the player reaidng would be liekly to miss the clef change at the beginning of the next system (we tend to ignore the stuff at the beginning of systems after reading the first clef/key/meter).
So actually, while you can indeed set the courtesy clef invisible, it would still take up space. better to simply tell MuseScore not to generate them. You can make them go away individually by right clicking them and choosing "Hide Courtesy Clef" (using using the corrsponding option in the Inspector in 2.0). Or you can make them go away globally by going to Style / General / Page and unchecking the option to generate courtesy clefs. You can also use the new 2.0 "section break" (Breaks & Spacers palette) to create a break that MsueScore knows not to show courtesy clefs, Same for key signatures & time signatures.
In reply to Ah, that makes sense now. by Marc Sabatella
You got exactly what I'm doing! It's an exercise sheet.
Like I said to Zack (above), I didn't understand the usefulness of the Inspector, and your reply got me to try it and like it.
I appreciate your taking the time to explain the ins-and-outs of the courtesy clef, especially for pointing to the Style menu. Earlier, I didn't realize its power. I've been using MuseScore for all of five days now, and have yet to explore most of its possibilities. So, already I've been able to add the Style menu to my repertoire. (I used it to disappear measure numbers.)
Your suggestion to create a custom break of my own intrigues me. I haven't had the time yet, but I intend to learn how to do that next. If I don't succeed with the documentation by itself, I'll be knocking at the door of the forum again for help!
Thank you.