Issue with stems in linked stave and tablature
Hi,
I'm relatively new to MuseScore, and I have just imported a score that I already had, made of two parts, piano and guitar tablature.
What I want to do is to link the two parts. To do that, I am creating a linked stave to the guitar tabs. Unfortunately, the result is a bit confusing.
This is the starting point:
This is after I created the linked stave:
As you can see, the linked part doesn't have stems (I already checked that the "stemless" is not active).
Then I tried to get stems by selecting different voice .... this is what I get if I select voice 2, I get the stems but I also get a lot of unwanted rests
Anybody can suggest me how to get two staves identical to the starting score, but just linked?
BTW, I also tried to create brand new staves and copy&past the content from the original one, and I get the same stem problems as above.
Hope that my explanation is clear enough, and the pictures are also shown correctly. Thanks for any help
Bob
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You say you "imported" the score - from where? Normally, what you describe shouldn't happen, but to understand why it did, we'd need the actual score - ideally both the file you imported and the MSCZ that resulted from the import - not just a picture of it.
The "unwanted rests"mpart is normal, though - you moved notes from voice 1 to voice 2, but voice 1 can't be empty, so the notes are replaced by rests. Basically, moving the notes from vocie 1 to voice 2 wasn't the way to try to fix this.
In reply to You say you "imported" the by Marc Sabatella
Hi Marc,
Thanks for your reply. Attached the original XML file (created with Finale Notepad), and the resulting MSCZ after I have open the XML and added the linked guitar part to the tablature
Well, I'd say you are abusing this feature or at least push it beyond limits. Linked staves are two different representations of the same music for the same instrument, tablature doesn't really make sense for any non-stringed, non-fretted instrument like guitars. Esp. the use with a multi staff instrument like piano seems to severely throw it of track, but doesn't make sense in the first place.
In reply to Well, I'd say you are abusing by Jojo-Schmitz
I fully agree with you, but let me explain a bit better what I am doing. The piano part was never supposed to be a piano part, but rather the guitar solo. In other words, I created it as a piano by mistake and lack of experience.
Now I want to have one instrument only, guitar, and have the music written both as regular music, with duration, rests, etc.., and the tablature below.
I could of course re-enter all the notes one by one, but I thought that either adding a linked stave, or copying & pasting the piano notes into a new guitar score would have made it.
Still I think there is some minor bug in that I get these notes without stem (although they play perfectly fine, so the duration is indeed there somewhere), and was hoping that perhaps some trick or some feature that I am not aware of would have made them appear.
Thanks,
Bob
In reply to I fully agree with you, but by rragni
"Now I want to have one instrument only, guitar, and have the music written both as regular music, with duration, rests, etc.., and the tablature below."
To obtain this from the first XML file:
1) Hit "I": delete the tab staff and the second staff for piano. You have now: staff 1Sultans of Swing.mscz
2) Right-click on the staff -> Staff Properties -> Change instrument -> Guitar (here, I had expected the 8vb treble clef, nevermind, one can change easily) : 2 staff 1Sultans of Swing.mscz
3) Return in "I" -> Add a linked Tab staff, and you receive that you wish: 1Sultans of Swing.mscz
In reply to "Now I want to have one by cadiz1
Thanks, this works. Still have a small problem because the frets are correct, but on the wrong strings, so I guess I have to change them manually one by one to move them to the correct position. Thanks again for your help
Bob
In reply to Thanks, this works. Still by rragni
Be advised that for TAB, MuseScore chooses the lowest playing position on the fretboard to locate the notes. It's not yet capable of shifting to different neck positions 'on the fly' as a player would.
For all but the simplest passages (i.e. in first position), manual adjustments are needed.
Regards.
In reply to Thanks, this works. Still by rragni
"Still have a small problem because the frets are correct, but on the wrong strings"
It's not a small problem at all, it's a feature. In guitar, you know it, the same note may be played in different locations.
MuseScore can not read in your mind to know what position you want to play eg an E or F, and so on! MuseScore lets you be the master of the game :)
So, if necessary, select the involved numbers in the Tab staff, and with Ctrl + Up arrow or Down arrow, change the location of the string . With practice, you will go fast, believe me!
For you, I made this change in the following attached file (it's a fingering proposition, with adding slurs, and some layout).
3Sultans of Swing.mscz
In reply to "Still have a small problem by cadiz1
Hi Cadiz1. Thanks for posting this. Was driving me crazy trying to figure out how to move the fret # on the tabbed staff to another string.
But.....here is another question. Hopefully you have figured this out.
When I enter a new note using the Tab (ie. fret 4, string 3 on the bass) it shows in the linked staff as a C#. Do you know if there is a way to get the notes to default to a b (flat; Db in this case) instead?? I just prefer to see it written that way.
Thanks!
In reply to Thanks, this works. Still by rragni
BTW, the reason you had stemless notes is that they were set that way on the original tab staff. Click a note on the tab staff and look in the Inspector and you'll see. So just select the contents of the staff, press the Notes button in Inspector to limit selection to the notes only, and clear the Stemless checkbox.
In reply to BTW, the reason you had by Marc Sabatella
Property found Marc. But this done (clear the Stemless checkbox), you get this: beams Sultans.mscz , and you have to make a new work on the beams, in particular.
Since you get this (after select, and Auto, in Beam Properties): 1 beams Sultans.mscz
Furthermore, you absolutely may change the Tab staff (-> for "simple" type) if not, new issue with "common" type.
But it is possible to reorganize the beams, and the fingering is fine (in a different position from my first proposal, but probably more suitable for electric guitar). So you waste time on a point and you win another. So, equality, perhaps!