Layout Error
When checking back on my scores, I occasionally find that MS has stretched 1 normal measure across an entire page. How can i fix the Layout on that-without messing up the whole file? Please see example., pg 11, Measure 37.Thanks
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Try deleting the line break
In reply to Try deleting the line break by Shoichi
Go to style > general > measure and change the measure spacing to 1.0.
Note that your score is corrupted. Measure 15, staff 6 contains 2 half notes and a 8th rest. That's too much for a 2/2 measure.
In reply to Go to style > general > by [DELETED] 5
That measure did not display for me that way. It just showed a whole rest in 2/2 time. I did add a rest, must have added up to too much! I am having a struggle editing a 1.3 FILE WITH MS2+. Does not respond well when i try to fix corruptions.
In reply to That measure did not display by delhud2
I followed the instructions of Lasconic,
checks if now is OK.
(A doubt: Ctrl + F> 15 leads me to measure 11)
In reply to I followed the instructions by Shoichi
OK, I will check. i quickly looked through the pages, looks OK to me.
In reply to Go to style > general > by [DELETED] 5
Would that affect the entire score? Or just fix the offending measure?
In reply to Go to style > general > by [DELETED] 5
I noticed that on MS.com, it had fixed the layout nicely for MS.com I am glad it looks good, since over 1600 people already have viewed it. But the file in my home PC has the odd measure.
In reply to Go to style > general > by [DELETED] 5
Do I still keep the Line breaks? I was given to understand that down the llne, say on printing and parts extraction, I might be sorry if I did not have them.
In reply to Go to style > general > by [DELETED] 5
Thank You, I did that and it fixed the offending measure. I am wondering, though, if should I keep that measure setting on 1.0 for all future scores, or let it go back to 4.0, which apparently is its MS default setting ? Would 1.0 accommodate say a longish measure of 34 th notes or something? Just wondering.
In reply to Try deleting the line break by Shoichi
Marc told me it is a good idea to always have the Line Breaks, or I could be opening up the score for a free for all on layout.
In reply to Marc told me it is a good by delhud2
When they have spoken (Marc, Lasconic and other "pillars") always follow their advice ;-)
In reply to When they have spoken (Marc, by Shoichi
Yes, I take their advice seriously!
In reply to Marc told me it is a good by delhud2
In general, line breaks are good if you insist on having *that spefific layout* rather than *whatever layout MuseScore thinks is best. Normally its best to have *no* line breaks and let MuseScore take care of it. But if you have some specific need to alter the default lin breaks, then you shoud indeed add them everywhere (Edit / Tools / Add/Remove Line Breaks will do this for you quickly), and *then* - this is very important - also reduce stretch or measure spacing a notch. That way you have not only put in line breaks, but given them a bit of "breathing room" so that if something changes in the future and some line takes a little more space than it does today, everything will still fit.
In reply to In general, line breaks are by Marc Sabatella
OK, Now I understand line breaks better--I like the idea of just having MS take care of the layout,
My main goal is not to have any problems later on from printing/parts, etc.
Checking over the below attached file again today, I find two problems 1)--MS2 will not let me click and drag down on some page numbers that are too high up, some in the actual score part. I checked back on this file in my original 1.3 files, and the page numbers are fine, so obviously MS2 created these errors.( Not a problem if I could just fix them in MS2. 2) The corrupted file notice is still appearing when I open the file in MS2, though the measures look fine to me, as they did to Marc last week. So why does not MS2 register the corrections? (Perhaps I should not worry about corruptions too much if there is little or no chance they won't cause the file to crash at some point?)
In reply to Checking over the below by delhud2
Measure 15 Staff 6 incomplete. Expected: 2/2; Found: 9/8
And indeed there is an 8th rest too much.
The page numbers issue is due to different odd/even borders in page format
In reply to Checking over the below by delhud2
Page number are not now and to my knowledge have never been things you could click on and move. Their position is determined by your margin and style settings - Layout / Page Settings, Style / Text / Header or Style / Text / Footer.
I am not sure which numbers you are referring to, though. I see a "1" toward the top of the first real page of music (page 2), but that is just an ordinary staff text attached to measure 5, and it can certainly be clicked and dragged, or you can use Ctrl+R to return it to its proper place.
The score you post *is* corrupt, exactly where the message says. The score you psoted earlier was a different copy. That one reported no errors and in fact had no errors. But this copy does. I am guessing this the original copy from before you made the fix.
The error is quite clear - as MuseScore rpoerts to you, it is measure 15, staff 6. The horn 3/4 part has too many beats in voice 1 (two half notes and an eighth rest). be sure to use Ctrl+F to locate the correct measure rather than relying on the printed measure numbers, since they are often off because of pickup measure or other measures excluded from the measure numbering. You measure numbers are actually off by 2, because you not only have the pickup excluded (which is normal and correct), but you have *also* for some reaosn set the first full measure to add -1 to its measure number, so instead of it being measure 0, 1, it's actually measure 0, and then you *also* have the following measure excluded from the measure count for some reason. You should probably fix that too.
Anyhow, corruptions *are* likely to lead to further problems later on, so you should definitely fix them. Plus, this measure will make no sense to the musician reading it.
In reply to Page number are not now and by Marc Sabatella
All those issue are fixed in the score attached to my earlier reply ;-)
In reply to All those issue are fixed in by Jojo-Schmitz
Then maybe I could download "your" score of "my score " and have it be my correct file permanently?! Is this "Kosher".? Also, I have been wondering about scores uploaded to MS.com either privately or for the public--if they look fine and correct, can they be just downloaded and then used to replace a corrupted, etc. score in one's original files? I know it is recommended to upload a score to MS.com just to have an extra copy if not to share.
In reply to Then maybe I could download by delhud2
If it weren't Ok to use it. I'd not have posted it ;-)
In reply to Page number are not now and by Marc Sabatella
Whew, Your comment will take me some time to understand about the corrupt and non-corrupt copies, and the measure count thing! I don't need any further comment, I will figure it out. This file was my very first of the Opera--I have improved at least quite a bit since then.
On page numbers, there have been many times when I found later on in the score that I had to increase the length of the page size to take in the extra choruses, etc .I'm sure I remember that when a page was increased in height, the original page numbers would be up inside the strings or higher, and I would click and drag them down so a conductor or anyone else would not complain about seeing no page numbers. Of course, this was all in MS 1.3
In reply to Page number are not now and by Marc Sabatella
I checked back on my MS 1.3 files and find as I remembered that the page numbers are clickable and can be dragged into whatever place. But MS2+ does not do this. Also, do not know why MS2+ changed the location of the page numbers in 1.3 when edited/uploaded into MS2+.
In reply to I checked back on my MS 1.3 by delhud2
The page numbers are exactly where your page layout settings say they should be. Did you see the comment about the differing odd / even margins in Layout / Page Settings? If 1.3 was not honoring those margins correctly, then it is a bug that has been fixed.