Bar Stretch
Now and again I find that the stretch bar function in layout not responding ! Terry
Now and again I find that the stretch bar function in layout not responding ! Terry
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There's a limit to how much you can fit into one line, after that the 'reduce stretch' stops doing anything visually to the score.
In reply to There's a limit to how much by Jojo-Schmitz
I realise this and this line had no great bar stretch in it. The strange thing is after submitting to you I came back to work on the piece and the stretch function worked ok !
I find the same thing. I wrote 8 bars in Musescore 2.0.3 and the stretch feature basically does nothing, or it does random things (decreasing the bars in size by half). It's not reproducible. Right now it does nothing. This is a huge bug. It does not work. Fortunately I did not uninstall Musescore 1.3 which does the stretch feature nicely, every time, but still it would be nice to use the latest version. This is the second or third time I've noticed this...
In reply to I find the same thing. I by pdeck
Please elaborate, what exactly are you doing (step-by-step), what is happening and what are you expecting to happen instead. If possible show a score demostrating the problem. Also tell us wich OS you are using.
In reply to Please elaborate, what by Jojo-Schmitz
I wrote 8 lines of a tune. Then I selected the measures on the first line, and I pressed "{". I pressed it 20 times, but nothing happened. Then I selected on measure and pressed "{" and it compressed the measure by half. Then I reversed that. Then I selected again the first four measures and pressed "{" and it compressed all of those measures by half, so I reversed that. Then I went online to see if I was using the command correctly. When I returned to my score and selected the first four measures again, and pressed "{", nothing happened. That's about as much detail as I can give you. And I can't share the file because I reverted to the earlier version of Musescore and created the file afresh using the same file name. I just tried loading THAT file into version 2 and the shrink button works just fine now.
And I just created a totally new tune and it works fine. So, I really can't say what is up. It appears to be an intermittent issue. From now on I guess I will have to enter a few bars of random notes into my score to make sure I am able to use the "{" command with that file before proceeding with any actual time-consuming work.
Using Windows 7 Enterprise with Service Pack 1 and I do all the updates regularly.
In reply to I wrote 8 lines of a tune. by pdeck
Sometimes indeed 'reduce stretch' doesn't have any visible effect: the selected measures are already too full to make place for an additional measure in the same system, or there is a system break. If you look at the measure properties though, you notice that their stretch value has been altered
In reply to I wrote 8 lines of a tune. by pdeck
The stretch commands really do work - millions of people use them every day. Without seeing the actual score it's hard to say what might have been going on in your specific case. Could be there was a line break you failed to delete and that was what prevented more measures from fitting on a line, or perhaps the minimum note distance setting in Style / General / Measure was limiting the ability to compress measures further. There are other possibilities as well, but those seem most likely. But there has to be a logical reason.
So anyhow, if it does happen again, please do attach the score and give precise steps to reproduce the problem so we can see what is going on and explain it better. Or, in the event it does turn out to be a once-in-a-million-case bug, we will have the info we need to fix it.
In reply to The stretch commands really by Marc Sabatella
Aha! Your comment "line break you failed to delete" almost certainly nails the cause of this problem. I didn't know what those little doodads were for. Mousing over them I see that they are called "layout breaks." I had created my song by typing right into the "My_First_Score" template, which contains the layout breaks, and "stretch" did not work there, obviously, because there is nothing for a whole line to do but remain a whole line. But when I opened a file I created under the previous version, stretch DID work ... and now I see that the difference is that the previous-version file does not have the little "carriage return" symbols along the right side. Sorry to have rattled everyone's cage -- I promise I'm really not a complete idiot even though this must seem like newbie epic fail to all of you Musescore pros.
In reply to Aha! Your comment "line by pdeck
We're used to noobs ;)
In reply to Aha! Your comment "line by pdeck
I had a hunch on both counts: that you may have started with My First Score and didn't realize there line breaks, and that you really are not a complete idiot :-)
FWIW, 1.3 *does* have line breaks, but you'd normally have to place them manually in any new score you create. That's actually also true for 2.0 - any new score you create will not have any breaks already. Only "My First Score" has breaks already. If 1.3 had also come up with "My First Score" by default instead of "Reunion", you'd have seen the same thing there.