How to add polyrhythms in an unmeasured cadenza?
Hi, I'm trying to write out part of this cadenza from Rachmaninoff's 3rd piano concerto. I am unsure how to change the beam to an octuplet in the right hand over a sextuplet in the left hand (see photos below). Does anyone know how to do this?
Thanks!
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For me, it's not a cadenza, it's tuplets, octo tuplets on right hand and sixtuplets on left
In reply to For me, it's not a cadenza,… by Raymond Wicquart
It is within a cadenza, but the issue for me is I don't know how to write Rachmaninoff's subdivision to have one beam in both the right and the left hand. If I use the tuplets feature on the right hand and on a half rest click command+8, it gives me 16th note octuplets. If I click command+6 on a half note I get 8th note sextuplets. Do you know how to get it looking the way Rachmaninoff wrote it?
In reply to It is within a cadenza, but… by joshvigran
I'm not really following. Are you just saying you want them to be octuplets, but be notates as eighth notes rather than sixteenth? Use Notes / Tuplets / Other and choose the exact ratio (e.g, 8 in the space of 4, to have octuplet eighths in the space of a half note).
But FWIW, don't be sure that's how Rachmaninoff wrote it; those decisions are more often made by the editor / engraver of the particular edition you are reading from.
In reply to It is within a cadenza, but… by joshvigran
Start with whole note rests. For the 8-tuplet just add it from the Add>>Tuplet menu. For the 6-tuplet use the "Other" option and use a ratio of 6/8. Then apply "beam middle" to join the note groups. See attached - just one group.
Tuplet.mscz