Odd phenomenon when you have different time signatures on Treble and Bass clefs.
I don't know if this is a one time glitch I experienced or what, but I had a treble clef in 12/8 and a bass clef in 4/4. After entering notes in the treble clef, I tried moving some notes from one measure to another measure that already had notes but was not a full measure. Musescore would not let me cut and paste the notes into the other measure. I got a weird message about filling out the tuplet before moving the notes even though it wasn't a triplet. I know what 3 8ths in a 12/8 measure are a triplet in a 4/4 measure.
Another weird phenomenon is when I had 12/8 in the treble and 4/4 in the bass, then I reverse that (12/8 in the bass and 4/4 in the treble), the tempo speeds up by a third. Weird.
Comments
That is an idiosyncrasy of local time signatures in MuseScore
In reply to That is an idiosyncrasy of… by Jojo-Schmitz
OK, thanks. That is what I thought.
I'm curious how you actually do this, I am trying to put Amedee Mereaux's Etude op. 63 no. 19 into Musescore but a few measures, in particular, have the 16th note in the same bar (I've checked many different sheets for this piece and they all are written the same) and the time doesn't add up.
In reply to I'm curious how you actually… by The_Daily_Recital
Those are not 16ths, they're 7 in the time of 6 16ths. You have to create a septuplet.
In reply to Those are not 16ths, they're… by m.r-botero
The time signature is 6 8 though, so should I change the time signature just for that bar? I tried doing a septuplet, it ended up having too much space so there was just a bunch of rests.
In reply to Those are not 16ths, they're… by m.r-botero
Here I tried the septuplet but there in 6 8 but there was still too much time, also I don't know if I'm doing something wrong but it's also off-putting the second voice I think?
In reply to Here I tried the septuplet… by The_Daily_Recital
Select for the septuplet the duration of a dotted crotchet before, then create the septuplet.
In reply to Here I tried the septuplet… by The_Daily_Recital
It IS a tuplet. 7 16ths in the space of 6.
In reply to It IS a tuplet. 7 16ths in… by underquark
Thank you, I don't know how you did it lmao but thank you
In reply to It IS a tuplet. 7 16ths in… by underquark
Since you are like a Musescore jesus, can you tell me what this even means when there are dots all the way down the staff (also the time doesn't add up again)
In reply to Since you are like a… by The_Daily_Recital
Those 4 dots belong to the 4 crotchets (1/4) notes that precede them. They make the duration 50% longer so that the duration adds up to 6 quavers (1/8ths).
In reply to Those 4 dots belong to the 4… by SteveBlower
how do I notate that with musescore?
In reply to Since you are like a… by The_Daily_Recital
The dots below are staccatos
The notes add up just fine as far as I can tell, 6/8
In reply to The dots below are staccatos… by Jojo-Schmitz
What am I doing wrong?
In reply to What am I doing wrong? by The_Daily_Recital
Not using voices and dotted durations
In reply to Not using voices and dotted… by Jojo-Schmitz
What kind of voices? There just isn't enough time within the bar
In reply to What kind of voices? There… by The_Daily_Recital
Each stave can have 1, 2, 3 or 4 Voices, each with differing notes:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/voices
In reply to Each stave can have 1, 2, 3… by underquark
Like this:
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But MuseScore doesn't do a great job with the augmentation dots. There must be an overlap in there somewhere.
In reply to Like this: [inline:Snip1… by SteveBlower
Indeed, it's necessary to adjust the dot position manual here, easiest way select a note of voice 2, select "Dot 1" at the bottom inside the inspector, change the dot position from "auto" to "top". The same for the second note of voice 2.
Agree, probably could be improved.
In reply to Indeed, it's necessary to… by kuwitt
Yes, it's a bit embarrassing that MuseScore gets this wrong when I am trying to show the OP how easy it is to get four stacked dotted crotchets in two voices - easy it isn't :^(
In reply to Yes, it's a bit… by SteveBlower
Steve, love your 16th c. words for quarter and 8th notes. crochets and quavers. So nostalgic. Makes me wanna go back to lute and hurdy-gurdy music.
In reply to Steve, love your 16th c… by odelphi231
For the record, these are the words in everyday use in Great Britain.
In reply to For the record, these are… by Marc Sabatella
Thanks for the culture lesson. My apologies. So in GB, they don't use quarter, 8th, etc, at all?
In reply to Thanks for the culture… by odelphi231
Understand, but don't use, mostly
In reply to For the record, these are… by Marc Sabatella
No need for nostalgia here. We just naturally use the correct names for these things. Sometimes I forget to translate.
In reply to No need for nostalgia here. … by SteveBlower
You are right. Those are the correct names for these notes. BTW: I am all into nostalgia. Remember the great music of the 70s? For pianists, it was a great time.