Tenor voice plays octave too low
I imported 2 xml files into MuseScore. Both are for SATB with 4 separate staves. In playback, the tenor part is playing an octave lower than it should. What can I do to fix this? Thanks!
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Best way is to attache the score. Did you check the correct clef for the tenor staff? Maybe add it from the clef palette. Or select all notes of this staff and use the shortcut ctrl+arrow up.
In reply to Best way is to attache the… by kuwitt
Thanks! Not sure what you mean by attaching the score. I pulled the scores from my xml file folder directly into MuseScore. Yes, the tenor clef is correct in both scores.
In reply to Thanks! Not sure what you… by NBMoosic
See: https://musescore.org/en/node/289899.
In reply to Thanks! Not sure what you… by NBMoosic
I remember scores where the clef used was the treble clef and the tenor parts were written an octave higher than sounded so they would be on the treble clef without leger lines.
In reply to I remember scores where the… by xavierjazz
Just tried pulling the treble clef from the pallettes menu onto the tenor staff to see if that would solve the problem, but it wouldn't allow.
In reply to Just tried pulling the… by NBMoosic
The clef changed colour when dragged to the staff?
In reply to The clef changed colour when… by xavierjazz
No. Red circle with line through it.
In reply to Just tried pulling the… by NBMoosic
So as mentioned it before the attached xml file is needed.
In reply to So as mentioned it before… by kuwitt
File attached.
In reply to File attached. by NBMoosic
And what do you expect, something like this?
In reply to And what do you expect,… by kuwitt
Thanks. But how do I get it to play correctly with the tenor clef? My singers read tenor clef and will be confused by the notation being an octave down.
In reply to File attached. by NBMoosic
Or?
In reply to Or? by kuwitt
That would do, even though it isn't tenor clef. Thanks! How did you get it to work?
In reply to File attached. by NBMoosic
See also http://www.mirbsd.org/music/free/Ha%C3%9Fler%20--%20Cantate%20Domino.ms… to save you the effort ☻
This bug seems to persist. Any solution yet?
In reply to This bug seems to persist… by Trochi
Please share your score that has an issue for inspection.
In reply to Please share your score that… by jeetee
Here you go :)
for more Info see the comment below.
In reply to Here you go :) for more Info… by Trochi
Yes, the first tenor staff is set to transpose down a an octave (see Staff/Part Properties), and it's notated with treble-8 clef. So indeed you see things two octaves lower. Seems something got a little lost in the translation with the MusicXML. Transposition info is often a little off on export/import. Simply enough to fix, just disable the transposition in the staff/part properties, then if you want the part to actually sound an octave higher than currently, select it and hit Ctrl+Up.
In reply to Yes, the first tenor staff… by Marc Sabatella
Duh!
Thanks for pointing it out to me! Totally missed that although I opened that window a couple of times >.<
And thanks for the marvellous support as always :)
In reply to This bug seems to persist… by Trochi
Tenor voice written on treble clef is supposed to sound an octave lower than written - that's what the little "8" under the clef indicates. Regular treble clef wouldn't be usable, since most of the tenor part would be below the staff.
In reply to Tenor voice written on… by Marc Sabatella
Thank you for your answer! Unfortunately the 8va bassa is not the issue here as I can demonstrate in this (https://youtu.be/8MFuXaWqumY) video. The original Tenor system plays two octaves lower than the original treble clef while the other one I created after the fact plays one octave below (as it should). Both written with 8va bassa clefs.
However this only appears to be an issue when importing a musicxml file from sibelius and is not a more general bug as I thought originally, as this behaviour was not repeatable when I created a choir piece with the musescore preset from scratch.
Any idea what might cause this? Couldn't find anything in the instrument settings thus far.
In reply to Thank you for your answer!… by Trochi
Likely either a bug in Sibelius MusicXML export or in MuseScore MusicXML import… or that the MusicXML spec is not clear about transposed staves vs. transposing clefs. One of the three anyway.
In reply to Likely either a bug in… by mirabilos
According to my experience, Sibelius has never been able to playback 8-clefs in the correct octave, being the one indicated by the clef. As a consequence it needs to fake it and pretend there was a transposition, which then gets exported in the xml file.
We have the same Problem here, and also see screenshot
In reply to We have the same Problem here by wessjoh
See above, it stems from Sibelius
Just change the staves' transpositioning to none (in staff properties) and move all notes up an octave (click 1st measure, Shift+End, Ctrl+Up)
I'm new to Musescore, but I finally found an easy quick fix for this! Highlight the entire tenor part using shift, go to the instruments tab, click the gear on the right for the tenor, click "replace instrument", and just replace it with tenor. Then you can simply use the up key to nudge the whole thing up an octave and it's done! There may be a few accidentals that need to be respelled, but that seems to be easily done with the up and down keys.
In reply to I'm new to Musescore, but I… by benfilippone
Rather than using the up key to nudge by semitones, and then re-spell accidentals, it is much quicker to use Cntrl + up key to transpose by an octave in one operation.