Conveniently delete an element
I don't know if this should be an enhancement request or if there is already something that does this. I put staccato on about 60 violin notes. After doing some other stuff, I decided I wanted Marcato-Staccato instead.
Could not find a quick easy way to delete the staccato element from 60 notes, except to do it one at a time, OR use the undo about 20 times (undoing all kinds of things I didn't want to undo) until you undo the staccato marks.
Here is my enhancement request (if there is not a way to do this). Make the palette items toggles so that you can wax-on, wax-off the elements just by clicking. I would highlight the 60 notes, hit the staccato palette element any Viola! it would take the markings off. Yes, I tried this and it didn't work.
Thank you
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Select all similar in range selection https://musescore.org/en/handbook/selection-modes#all-similar-selection
In reply to Select all similar in range… by Shoichi
Grazie. That works, though it takes 2-3 actions to complete. Still not as convenient as my suggestion of the palette elements being toggles.
In reply to Grazie. That works, though… by odelphi231
If the notes are consecutive, the ctrl+s (the staccato shortcut) is a toggle. It will turn off existing staccato on those selected notes.
Starting in version 3.5, If they are not consecutive, click a staccato, press shift + click another staccato and all staccatos (and all other articulations in between) will be selected. You can then press delete to get rid of them all at once.
In reply to If the notes are consecutive… by mike320
Thank you. That saves me one step, but still not as nice as if the palette elements were toggles. Also, I am already remembering about 20 keystroke shortcuts. Do you want me to remember another one?
In reply to Thank you. That saves me… by odelphi231
Don't underestimate your ability to remember when you use a shortcut often. I probably use 50 when I transcribe an orchestral score. I make them make sense if they don't by default.
In reply to Thank you. That saves me… by odelphi231
You don't need a shortcut to use the click / shift+click method of selection. This is a basic gesture common to virtually all programs as a way of selecting things. So, exactly three click total (click, shift+click, delete) to remove all 60 staccato markings.
In reply to You don't need a shortcut to… by Marc Sabatella
AH! I see. Just to clarify, you click on the FIRST staccato marking, shift+click on the last one, THEN hit delete. That works. Thanks
What if I have a mixture of staccato and tenuto markings mixed in together? Would the click, shift+click method only highlight the staccato markings? If so, that is nice.
In reply to AH! I see. Just to clarify,… by odelphi231
Try it and see, that's what I'd have to do also :-). My guess is, no, it does all articulations. But then, selecting the full ranges of measures, then right-click on staccato, Select / More, then checking both "Same subtype" and "In selection", should work.
No matter how you slice it - using keyboard shortcuts, using the Delete key, or if the palette somehow became a toggle - the real trick is in making the selection. After that, it's pretty much the same whether you accomplish the actual deletion any of those three ways. So, learning the various ways of selecting things is definitely worth some time. See the Handbook for much more info.
In reply to AH! I see. Just to clarify,… by odelphi231
The advantage of the shortcut in your case is that shift+s will toggle only staccatos and not affect tenutos or other articulations. Of course it has the disadvantage that it will put staccatos on all notes without one already. There are other ways including select>more... but sometimes the shortcut is the easiest way. Having options is a good idea.
In reply to The advantage of the… by mike320
Seems like from what I have been hearing, the palette toggle method seems like the easiest/most straight forward method. But the click, shift+click method is OK for now.
Maybe something like, click on the palette element puts the element on (this is the default action now), shift+click on the palette element just highlights the element, that is already on, for additional action (delete, move, etc) Ctrl+click just deletes the element that you have highlighted with a highlight rectangle.
BTW: It is a little annoying when I draw a rectangle around notes in a measure (but not all notes) but the rectangle goes ahead and highlights ALL the notes in the measure anyway? Only happens if one voice takes up the whole measure (i.e. whole note) and you have another voice that has some notes in the same measure. Workaround is to individually click on the notes you want. Any better workaround?
In reply to Seems like from what I have… by odelphi231
To select part of a measure, click one note then shift + click the last note. Remember that if you select a note in a measure with other voices, any notes that share a beat with the selected note will be selected also. Use the filter selector (F6) if you only want some of the voices selected.
In reply to To select part of a measure,… by mike320
Thank you. I will start doing that. IMHO, it should only select the notes you want selected. If you wanted to select the whole note, you would select it. But this is not a big deal with me. I can live with how it does it now.
In reply to Thank you. I will start… by odelphi231
The filter selector is a powerful tool. The default when dealing with notes has always been a continuous selection you can copy and paste. If you ctrl+click notes to select them, even though they are consecutive, MuseScore does not consider them continuous. The filter selector is the tool best used to limit your selection to fewer than all voices.
If you select them one at a time with the Ctrl key. you can toggle them at least on my 3.2 version.