Save style

• Aug 24, 2020 - 19:35

Hello,
I wanted to know why when I save a style it also saves the current page settings in the style. If both things are in different menus, I would expect Musescore to only save the style and not the specific page settings for the score I'm working in.

Comments

Jojo-Schmitz

• Aug 24, 2020 - 19:40

"Why" questions don't help much here, it is that way because it has been programmed that way.
Many style settings only make sense at a certain page size and staff space setting

m.r-botero

• Aug 24, 2020 - 20:13

Ok, would you agree that this should be treated as a bug? To be clear, I'm not talking about the "Page" part inside "Style...". I'm talking about the settings done in Format > Page Settings.... These get copied when clicking on "Save Style...".

Jojo-Schmitz

• Aug 24, 2020 - 20:19

Not a bug, but intentionally been programmed that way.
Page size, border width, staff space setting, whether even and odd pages, etc. are part of the style settings, even if located in a different dialog

m.r-botero

• Aug 24, 2020 - 20:31

"Not a but, but intentionally been programmed that way.
Page size, border width, staff space setting, whether even and odd pages, etc. are part of the style settings, even if located in a different dialog".

This is an unpleasant surprise.

Jojo-Schmitz

• Aug 24, 2020 - 20:42

You can edit that style file with a text editor of your choice and remove the unwanted settings

m.r-botero

• Aug 24, 2020 - 20:55

I tried that but I couldn't even find the page size that way :-). I suppose by design Musescore doesn't want the user to save a default style while working on proper music but instead you should open a new document and save the wanted setting there so that the specific page settings of the current document are not saved with the style. The user however doesn't seem to be warned in any way, seen that you would logically think that "Page" in Style and "Page settings" are two completely separate things, which makes me wonder, like in LyX, why are the Page Settings not in the Style "Page"? (Yes, I know you said "whys" don't matter here, but this seems to be a very strange design decision!). That would make it totally clear that saving that style including the specific page setting is gonna make a style based on all that. It would also avoid a certain redundancy between "Page Settings" and "Page".

Jojo-Schmitz

• Aug 24, 2020 - 20:59

It is right at the top of the file:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<museScore version="3.01">
  <Style>
    <pageWidth>8.27</pageWidth>
    <pageHeight>11.69</pageHeight>
    <pagePrintableWidth>7.4826</pagePrintableWidth>
    <pageEvenLeftMargin>0.393701</pageEvenLeftMargin>
    <pageOddLeftMargin>0.393701</pageOddLeftMargin>
    <pageEvenTopMargin>0.393701</pageEvenTopMargin>
    <pageEvenBottomMargin>0.787402</pageEvenBottomMargin>
    <pageOddTopMargin>0.393701</pageOddTopMargin>
    <pageOddBottomMargin>0.787402</pageOddBottomMargin>
    <pageTwosided>1</pageTwosided>
...

m.r-botero

• Aug 24, 2020 - 21:04

Uff, I see, in inches. To make matters worse ;-).

Marc Sabatella

• Aug 24, 2020 - 22:15

I think at one time this wasn't the case, but there were many complaints that these settings were not saved, so it changed many years ago, and not one complaint since then until today :-)

m.r-botero

• Aug 25, 2020 - 06:38

My sense of logic seems to be weird then ;-). I suppose the correct way is to keep adding stuff to a default style in a new file rather than in the current file, so that unnecessary page layout is not saved.