Modifying length of an existing note and removing the automatically-inserted rest.
This is similar to the question I asked the other day, but to be honest, I could not understand the answer to that question. Anyway, I keep encountering this kind of problems. See the first image below. After adding notes, I realised that the first note needs a dot. But the automatically inserted rest is filling the length. I selected the first note and added a dot, but then it became like the second image, taking the necessary timing by deleting the second note, not the automatically inserted rest as I expected in the third image. Without doing multiple dumb edits, is there a way to change the first image to the third image in one edit?
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This has nothing to do with rests, it's about the notes you entered on the wrong beat. You simply need to move them to the right beat. Starting with the "A" on beat two, the next three notes are all half a beat too early. So select them (eg, click the first, Shift+click the last), cut, click where you want to move them to, paste. No need to mess with anything whatsoever having to do with the rests, they take of themselves. Just move the notes where you want them.
In reply to This has nothing to do with… by Marc Sabatella
Or, as the changes are limited to a single measure, switch to insert mode, add the dot and remove the last rest. The first operation will extend the measure (a small + will appear to show that) and the second one will shorten it (the small + will disappear).
Make sure than once all is done there is no "small +" (or "small -") left, otherwise that means you have changed the measure length which is not your goal.
In reply to Or, as the changes are… by frfancha
But if you are following the suggestion of @frfrancha be aware that any changes in the length of a measure will apply to all staves. You may end up with notes in other staves moved in ways that you don't want. If you only have one stave, of course, this difficulty will not trouble you.
In reply to Or, as the changes are… by frfancha
Thanks, but pressing Ctrl+Shift+. does not add a dot to the selected note but creates a decrescendo below. If I insert a new quarter note with a dot like the second image, how can I delete the existing quarter note and the rest? I have tried to delete them, but deleting the quarter note inserted a quarter rest there, and the old eighth rest cannot be deleted (pressing [Delete] did nothing).
In reply to Thanks. This is probably a… by musescore_king
Not sure where you are getting Ctrl+Shift+. from, that's not a thing in MuseScore. To lengthen a note with an augmentation dot, it's just ".", no Ctrl or Shift. Shift+"." is normally ">" and that is indeed the shortcut for diminuendo.
Inserting and deleting notes is certainly possible if you wish to take the slower and more error prone (see the comments above about potentially unintended effects on other staves). if you've inserted a note into a measure with Ctrl+Shift+letter, or using Insert mode, then you will need to using Ctrl+Delete an equivalent amount of time from elsewhere in the measure to end up with the correct number of beats. Much more awkward then simply moving the notes you want moved, but possible nonetheless.
In reply to Not sure where you are… by Marc Sabatella
When there is only one stave, inserting and deleting notes to move things is absolutely not more "awkward" than cut and paste.
Don't be contemptuous with methods you don't like. And it is definitively not slower.
In reply to When there is only only one… by frfancha
When there is only one staff, it's only slightly less efficient, true (and in some cases at least it might be as efficient). But the vast majority of music has more than one staff, so you'll need the more general method anyhow. No contempt intended, it's just objectively not as good a recommendation for a beginner who is unlikely to understand the issues inherent in this.
In reply to When there is only one staff… by Marc Sabatella
Marc, your cut + paste method is indeed quick and easy. Even for an avid mouser such as myself. Thanks for the suggestion.
In reply to Not sure where you are… by Marc Sabatella
"." is "shift"+"." on azerty keyboard
In reply to This has nothing to do with… by Marc Sabatella
< cut, click where you want to move them to
But how exactly do I do that? With the first image (I had to recreate it because I have already fixed it manually), If I cut the 2~4th notes to move them after the rest, MuseScore just adds more rests. If I select the last rest and paste it there, it becomes like the fourth image. The workaround I could find was dividing the first quarter rest into two eighth rests, select the second eights rests and paste it there. Is that the way I supposed to do? Seems very cumbersome for this logically-simple task.
In reply to < cut, click where you want… by musescore_king
In reply to Select Cut Add dot to… by jeetee
Thanks. This worked. So, I tried to do the thing in a wrong order (first moving the three notes and then modify the first note). I simply needed to modify the first note first, as you said.
In reply to Thanks. This worked. by musescore_king
Unrelated to this issue, your question about using A B C D... to enter notes seems to indicate that you are using the mouse only.
Perfectly possible and legitimate but for info if you take a couple of minutes to learn how to enter notes using your computer keyboard you will win hours after that. Definitively worth the learning Time.
In reply to < cut, click where you want… by musescore_king
In your example, you wasted time fiddling with the rests after cutting - I have no idea what that fourth and fifth image are trying to reproesent. Again, rests are not the problem here. It's the length of the first note that is. So don't mess with the innocent rests - they aren't your enemy. Simply add the dot to the quarter note after cutting. Now you have a rest exact,y where you want to paste, and you can complete the operation.
The whole thing takes about 3 seconds. Since only you can possibly know exactly how many notes you actually want to move - how many notes you entered on the wrong beat before discovering your error - you do need to do the selection yourself. Then it's Ctrl+X, change duration, Ctrl-V, done. You have to do the hard part - figuring out which notes you entered incorrectly - yourself, but the rest is dead simple.