Classical guitar half barre notation??
Any idea how to add this info on a score? (the half barre, and the line showing how long to hold it)
Thanks
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Any idea how to add this info on a score? (the half barre, and the line showing how long to hold it)
Thanks
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See the "Lines" palette. You want the "Staff" line, then use the Inspector to customize the text.
In reply to See the "Lines" palette. … by Marc Sabatella
Also: you can use this ready-to-use palette, see attachment below.
And updated palette for version 3.6, the size was no longer suitable: the B's were too big, and the C's too small.
I think we now come to a new good compromise - that you can customize of course according to your preferences.
As a reminder if necessary: this is a .mpal format file. You have to download it from an existing MuseScore palette: right-click a palette name -> Load palette -> Select and Open this file "Barres Palette"
See: Palette Barres 3.6.mpal
EDIT: as you probably know, there are many ways in publications to indicate these barres. The two "styles" on the attached palette are surely the most common, or among the most common. To get the result of your attached image, simply edit in the Inspector, the letter C instead of B - image below. Then, the tip is to drop this new symbol in your palette for reuse.
In reply to Also: you can use this ready… by cadiz1
Times New Roman has a normal vertical strike-through C for a partial barre. Edwin does not.
Here's a palette with 4 barres for fret 7, both full and partial, and Roman and Arabic. Line style is dashed, which is also more common for barres. Change fret number in the Inspector.
BTW The glyph we are using for the partial barre is the cedi sign: https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+20B5
In reply to Times New Roman font has a… by rgos
Does FreeSerif have it? That at least is delivered along with (built tnto) MuseScore (like Edwin too)
In reply to Does FreeSerif have it? That… by Jojo-Schmitz
Yes, but it doesn't look as good as Times New Roman.
In reply to Yes, but it doesn't look as… by rgos
But it does look the same on every computer, also on those that don't have Time New Roman, which is a big plus.
In reply to But it does look the same on… by Jojo-Schmitz
Times New Roman (left) vs FreeSerif (middle) vs Edwin (right)
The FreeSerif glyph is slightly horizontally pinched. But still looks acceptable. Edwin turns it into a non-serif glyph.
In reply to Times New Roman (left) vs… by rgos
How do I type this character please? The C with the vertical line.
In reply to How do I type this character… by SteveBean
Copy and paste it from the link given above (https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+20B5) or from here: ₵
In reply to Copy and paste it from the… by Marc Sabatella
Thank you
In reply to Times New Roman font has a… by rgos
Assuming standard tuning, shouldn't that be VIII (8th fret) instead of VII?
In reply to Assuming standard tuning,… by Jm6stringer
Yep, corrected now. Beginner's mistake: C does not mean C chord but Ceja. ;-)
In reply to Yep, corrected now. by rgos
Yes.
You had originally notated a C major chord and instead of changing the barre to VIII (I had assumed the notes were entered correctly) you have instead changed the notes in your image to now be in agreement with the VII. ;-)
In reply to Yes. You had originally… by Jm6stringer
In fact, this confusion goes way back to my Musicator days. It had a C7 button in the tool palette. It was used for chords, not barres. My tool palette now gives MuseScore its C7 button, for barres, not chords.
Can anyone tell me where to find the 1/2 symbol in MS4 please?
In reply to Can anyone tell me where to… by RudoSaxx
While editing text in your score, you can press Shift+F2 to access the Special Characters dialog and add the symbol from there. Then copy and paste into your line text, and Ctrl+Shift+drag your custom line back to the palette for easy reuse.
You can also copy/paste from here - it's a standard Unicode symbol and should display in your browser:
½
Your computer probably has a way to type it directly, as character code 0xBD (decimal 189).
In reply to While editing text in your… by Marc Sabatella
Thank you very much for offering that many options. The Shift+F2 did not work (no dialog opening) but directly entering the character code did the job.
BTW, the 1/2 or ₵ notation does not specify where (which string) the barré ends. Of course one could use different fractions such as 1/6, 1/3, 2/3, 5/6 but that would be hard to read. Are you aware of a barré symbol in MS4 that uses the vertical hook line like in the attached example? I always found it much more flexible and intuitive in guitar notation. But I did not find it in MS so far.
In reply to Thank you very much for… by RudoSaxx
Be sure you're actually editing text in your score (like staff text or whatever - not text within the properties panel) when pressing Shift+F2. Also keep in mind that depending on how your keyboard is configured, all function keys might need you to also press Fn in order for them to act as function keys and not as controls for monitor brights and speaker volume and so forth. Also, you can open "Special characters" from the Properties panel - also only while actually editing text in your score.
That vertical hook can be added separately, perhaps using the Symbols palette within View / Master palette, if it's part of the standard SMuFL collection of music symbols, or maybe there is another Unicode character you could add (or build it using the box drawing characters). Maybe others who have tried to add that specific symbol can advise better...
In reply to Be sure you're actually… by Marc Sabatella
Thank you again Marc, for your thoughtful comments.
I could not figure out however how to edit the barré function text in-score. Click, double click, F2 or Ctrl+Shift+E only brings me to the move handles of the element but not into the text. Only way I found to edit that text is in the Properties panel. Is there any trick I missed?
As to the vertical hook lines, there are some in the keyboard techniques symbols but they are seemingly linked with particular functions like right-hand play and pedal stroke so it would seem as an abuse in my view. Also are they size-fixed while for the intended use case they need to be adjustable.
With box drawing characters I am not familiar, and it would still be a tedious workaround unless it can be linked with the barré box and saved as such in the respective palette.
What would be needed is the barré element having not only the horizontal line but also an additional vertical line that can be hooked with a certain vertical position within the score (usually coinciding with the lowest note of a chord or passage), which vertical hook position remains unchanged even if other parts of the barré element itself is moved or otherwise manipulated. And, of course, the vertical and horizontal lines should be separately definable in terms of line properties. If anyone has already generated such kind of barré element already, I'd be grateful for them to share... Otherwise, maybe that would make a nice feature request?
In reply to Thank you again Marc, for… by RudoSaxx
Text for lines is set on the Properties panel. So that is where you'll paste the 1/2 symbol.
I'm not familiar with the notation you describe, so I can't really speak to that, but again, perhaps other guitarists might have more experience and be able to comment.