Recorder Fingering--how to?
Hello--I see that there is a "plug in" for adding a diagram for recorder fingering (not sure what a plug in is). I am NOT tech savvy in the least (unless it's recording software). If possible, would anyone be willing to explain in a very easy way how to access this possibility for recorder diagrams for notes on the staff? I see the downloads and have clicked on them. But then what? No idea what to do next. If it is very involved (think: someone with super elementary computer "skills") just lmk know that, and I won't attempt. Thanks.
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Ciao, did you try to follow the instructions? https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/plugins#installation
In reply to Ciao, did you try to follow… by Shoichi
Thank you. I did look at this, but it's not something I understand.
It's not involved at all, but the instructions look more complicated than they really are, because it's trying to cover three different operating systems as well as other possible variables. The actual instruments are simple:
1) download into your Documents/MuseScore3/Plugins folder
2) if it's a ZIP file, extra the contents into that folder (no need for this step if it's a QML file)
3) in MuseScore, go to Plugins / Plugin Manager
4) find your new plugin in the list and put a check next to it
5) close the Plugin Manager
Now it's installed - you only need to do this once. From now on you can run it directly from the Plugins menu.
In reply to It's not involved at all,… by Marc Sabatella
Thank you. I installed from here (see attached pic). I clicked to download and put it in the Documents/MuseScore3/Plugins folder.
I don't know what you mean by step 2, but I clicked on the zip file.
The new plug in doesn't show up on the list.
Sorry--I think this may be too involved. But thanks for the info. -Kris
In reply to Thank you. I installed from… by Kittyko
2 if it's a ZIP file...
Right click->Extract here (in the documents/MuseScore3/Plugins folder);
Then step 3, 4 above.
In reply to 2 if it's a ZIP file… by Shoichi
Thanks--I don't get "extract" when I right click. Only "open" "open with" etc. I did download another plug in and it did show up in the plug in manager. But when I tried to use it, this is what it showed (see pic).
In reply to Thanks--I don't get "extract… by Kittyko
https://musescore.org/it/project/recorder-fingering
API compatibility 1.x
https://musescore.org/it/project/hohner-soprano-recorder-german-fingeri…
API compatibility 2.x
Apparently they have not been modified for 3X :(
In reply to https://musescore.org/it… by Shoichi
Ok, I'm sorry...I just don't know what any of this means. I'll just give the group a printed handout. Thanks for your time! :)
In reply to Ok, I'm sorry...I just don't… by Kittyko
Some plugins work for MuseScore version 1, others for version 2 (so we mean for X2). If there is no plugin for 3X you have an alternative:
Different versions of MuseScore can be intalled without conflict, so you could download the old 1X and install it to use the plugin (from https://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/musescore/releases/).
Another possibility is that a contributor can transport the plugin by updating it for the latest version.
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In reply to Some plugins work for… by Shoichi
Ok, thanks. This is now officially way over my head lol, so I'll just go with a printed cheat sheet at this point. Have a great day and thanks for the info. :)
In reply to Ok, thanks. This is now… by Kittyko
With a fresh mind, and in small steps, if I can do it, so can you.
Buona musica!
I've got a recorder font working in a 3.x plugin but I don't know if it's giving the right glyphs to each note.
![Recorder.png]( "Recorder.png")
Some notes didn't get a glyph at all. Maybe they are out of range?
Above are all the glyphs available in the (free) font.
Edit: I don't think that these are actually all the glyphs. I need to check
There is a free font editor called FontForge and it looks as though it would be easy to design a recorder font if the above font is not suitable.
https://fontforge.org/en-US/
In reply to I've got a recorder font… by yonah_ag
Here is the full set:
In reply to Here is the full set: … by yonah_ag
Found some excellent recorder fingering diagrams on Yamaha's site:
https://www.yamaha.com/en/musical_instrument_guide/recorder/play/play00…
In reply to I've got a recorder font… by yonah_ag
Updated version:
In reply to Updated version: [inline… by yonah_ag
Thank you! Yes, I will just print a page with diagrams. It would be great if somehow Musescore could add them to the score itself, but I don't have time currently to try to figure out computer-y stuff. This link will be helpful. :)
In reply to Thank you! Yes, I will just… by Kittyko
This sample was made by a new Musescore plugin compatible with 3.x so you just press a button and it applies the recorder font to all notes in voice 1 of the selected range of measures. If no range is selected then it processes the whole score.
Can you check the image above to see if every note has the correct glyph? I don't know much recorder notation and I guessed a couple of these as they weren't in the Yamaha documentation. If everything checks out then I can share the plugin and font for you to use in Musescore.
In reply to Thank you! Yes, I will just… by Kittyko
This is how you use it in MuseScore:
Added plugin to MuseScore and GitHub.
https://musescore.org/en/project/apply-recorder-fingering-glyphs-score
My plugin appears to be giving results which are instrument dependent, as shown in this image. Any idea why the fingering symbols are moved an octave higher on the violin stave?
In reply to My plugin appears to be… by yonah_ag
Because the recorder is an octave higher?
In reply to Because the recorder is an… by Jojo-Schmitz
Is it? It looks lower on the staves.
[Edit: well the fingerings go down to lower notes]
I don't know much about recorders or violins but I am trying to fix this for someone who is using the plugin. I'm guessing that the 8 above the recorder clef is involved.
In reply to Is it? I don't know much… by yonah_ag
It indeed is. Means that it is an ovtave above
In reply to See the little 8 above the… by Jojo-Schmitz
So, in fact, both results are correct. This must mean that a violin's note range extends below that of the recorder?? I thought that violins were high pitched instruments.
In reply to So, in fact, both results… by yonah_ag
A violin has a much larger range than a recorder. A recorder is basically two octaves, and in the case of the typical soprano recorder, that extends from C5 (an octave above middle C) to somewhere around C7 depending on the skill of the player. Those are sounding pitches - written pitches are an octave lower. But a violin can get from G3 (a fourth below middle C) to, well, somewhere that same C7, give or take a few notes depending on skill. Meaning, violin has an octave of around 3-4 octaves, and the record overlaps the top half of that range. They have approximately the same top end but the violin gets an octave and half lower.
In reply to A violin has a much larger… by Marc Sabatella
Perfect! Thanks for this info.