11/8 and 5/8 time
I am having trouble notating something I am writing/playing. As it is, I have alternating measures of 11/8 and 5/8 time which seems overly complicated. Attached are mscz file and a recording of what I am trying to notate.
Can someone take a listen please?
Audio file is .ogg format which appears to be the only audio format that is allowed here
| Attachment | Size |
|---|---|
| rhythm.mscz | 14.88 KB |
| rec_Rhythm.ogg | 38.61 KB |
Comments
You're definitely overcomplicating it. Even in the worst case there'd be no rule against just combining 11/8 and 5/8 into the perfectly countable 16/8 (and then most likely simplifying it to 4/4).
What you're transcribing is probably just a 4/4 groove taken out of context so it sounds like there's a 5th beat at the beginning, but even if not, there's definitely no need for triplets. The downbeats are strong and the rhythm is simple.
In reply to You're definitely… by Rose Egbert
You can't simplify 16/8 to 4/4, but to 8/4
In reply to You can't simplify 16/8 to 4… by Jojo-Schmitz
Guess what half of 8/4 is. I'm not using "simplifying" in the fourth grade math sense, I'm referring broadly to transformations that make the meter more normal.
In reply to Guess what half of 8/4 is. I… by Rose Egbert
But then 11/8 + 5/8 won't fit
In reply to But then 11/8 + 5/8 won't fit by Jojo-Schmitz
No, but they will fit across two measures, which MuseScore handles seamlessly
In reply to No, but they will fit across… by Rose Egbert
But may not match the desired beaming
In reply to But may not match the… by Jojo-Schmitz
This is exactly the issue. Even 8/4 seems odd to me. I don't know how I came up with that. I'm not writing math rock.
In reply to You're definitely… by Rose Egbert
Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, your score does not match the audio file.
In reply to Thanks for your reply… by allelopath
Based on the accents you played in the audio file, The file posted by Rose is very close. If the accent is a down beat, this is in 5/4. There are no long notes as in your score. And you add an open 2nd string now and then. At least on beat two and the final chord. Maybe more. Hard to tell. It's also possible that the last chord is beat five.
It's hard to say much more based on 6 seconds of music.
Compare to ogg audio:
Notation_ogg.mscz
(try with metronome, too)
There is no rhythm such as 11/8 or 5/8 in the "ogg" file you added, or I just couldn't pinpoint it.
What I heard: It's as if two 5/4 were played in a row. //assuming the beat at the end is quarter.
In the attached file there are examples of 11/8 and 5/8 rhythms.
If your melody/rhythm has similar accented beats and you attach it here, I think it can be better understood and a solution can be considered.
Listening to this "ogg," it also occurs to me that there's really only so much information that you need to include in a score that is meant for a human player. To my ears, this clip is in simple 4/4 time. The guitarist may then embellish it as (s)he sees fit, doing it differently each time it is played. But, you don't need to "score it."
If you're trying to capture this level of actual-performance detail, you probably need to be using a DAW.