Musescore 4 numpad not working
I'm trying out the ms4 alpha but I can't get the numpad to change the note duration. the regular keyboard numbers work and I've tried changing the keybind but it default back to just '5' instead of 'numpad 5' or something. ms3 still works fine
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This is a known issue, so no need to report this on GitHub. But if you find other issues, be sure to go there rather than here, as requested in the announcement. BTW, be sure also to be using the beta, not the alpha - the alpha is months old by now with hundreds of bugs fixed since.
In reply to This is a known issue, so no… by Marc Sabatella
And by now, a nightly should probably be preferred over the beta again as well.
In reply to This is a known issue, so no… by Marc Sabatella
my b, still trying to figure this out. could you point me in the right direction to download and install the latest experimental version?
In reply to my b, still trying to figure… by cytherean
To get a nightly build, click Download above, then Software, then scroll down to near the bottom where you see Development builds. Go there, and grab a nightly. Don't be fooled by the one that says beta, that is not the beta, but also, the beta is old enough now that wouldn't want it even if that were it. Just grab a nightly.
In reply to To get a nightly build,… by Marc Sabatella
hey cheers man I really appreciate the help! one last thing, what do I do with the 7Z file once it's downloaded?
In reply to hey cheers man I really… by cytherean
7z is a special type of "zip" archive, you unpack it using the free 7-zip program. Then go to the MuseScore4/bin folder and double-click the EXE file for MuseScore.
In reply to 7z is a special type of "zip… by Marc Sabatella
got it! thank you so much I wouldn't have figured that out myself. the numpad still isnt working though :( should I move this thread somewhere else?
In reply to got it! thank you so much I… by cytherean
Check the issues over at github; I'm fairly confident it's already reported over there, but if it isn't, then please add it. Otherwise add your information to the existing issue: https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/issues
In reply to Check the issues over at… by jeetee
got it thanks for catching me up
In reply to This is a known issue, so no… by Marc Sabatella
is the issue resolved? please, how do we turn numpad on for selecting note duration?
In reply to is the issue resolved?… by -xebo-
The numpad is used for TAB by default, that's why it is like it is.
Isn't the reason for the issue
that the shortcut system has been downgraded in MU4?
In MU3 you can assign different shortcuts for one and the same command,
which I think is a great feature.
In reply to Isn't the reason for the… by oMrSmith
These things are not related, but it is true that the ability to assign multiple shortcuts has been removed. The designers found this capability to be confusing to most users and made the assignment of shortcuts needlessly complicated. I miss it too, though.
In reply to These things are not related… by Marc Sabatella
Yeah, it's a bit of a pity and maybe it's also problematic. I find the shortcut assignement in MU3 actually pretty straight forward...
In reply to These things are not related… by Marc Sabatella
But do you know what I miss the most? Having these lovely buttons visable at all times:
hi, this is a critical issue, the numpad is used to change the length of notes, is there a way to turn it on?
In reply to hi, this is a critical issue… by -xebo-
I wish I knew how, too, as this is KILLING my productivity!! O.M.G. My brain is forcing a migraine with every work session!!
In reply to I wish I knew how as this is… by petecrosta
agreed, have you found that the number row above the letters works?
just that the numpad is not working,
please help MS4??
In reply to agreed, have you found that… by -xebo-
Yes! You can use the numbers above the QWERTY but "for me" it's a royal PITA as I'm entering pitches on a controller (AKAI LPK25) with my left hand and had my right hovering above the numeric keypad FOREVER using my iMac keyboard. Now it appears like I'm in "spastic training" entering each pitch and changing note values!!!! AGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!
Edit: I see Nathaniel wrote about importing an xml file, but that might just be for Windows - I'm on a Mac and have NO CLUE what he's (kindly) writing about.
In reply to Yes! You can use the numbers… by petecrosta
I don't have a mac to test it on but I would guess that it should work the same. The shortened version is:
1. Download the XML file I linked below
2. In Musescore, go to Edit > Preferences > Shortcuts and click on "Import"
3. Select the XML file you downloaded in step 1 to import the shortcut bindings
In reply to I don't have a mac to test… by nathanielgranor
Nathaniel, with all due respect - UTMOST respect - I wouldn't try it myself. Let the programmers do their thing so the application works correctly for ALL users (like previous versions). I'd be deathly afraid to try. Maybe your suggestion will be adopted by them in the next update?
In reply to Nathaniel, with all due… by petecrosta
the fix was easy, thank you
In reply to actually, wtf, you are… by -xebo-
It didn't work for all users before either.. It just so happened that the other method worked for you by default.
For now, export and import of the shortcuts.xml file is a stop-gap solution until a future release incorporates that version of the file by default.
In reply to hi, this is a critical issue… by -xebo-
I had this problem when I downloaded v4 a couple days ago. I was able to solve it this way:
1. Export the keyboard shortcut mappings:
Edit > Preferences > Shortcuts > Export
Save the xml file with a name you'll recognize
Repeat the process a second time to give yourself a backup copy of the original mappings in case you mess them up!
Open up the XML file from step 1 in your favorite text editor. I used VS Code, but you could even use Notepad on Windows.
In your editor, search the file for the text "pad-note-64." You should find something that looks like this:
<SC>
<key>pad-note-64</key>
<seq>1</seq>
</SC>
Edit this section so it looks like this:
<SC>
<key>pad-note-64</key>
<seq>1</seq>
<seq>Num+1</seq>
</SC>
Repeat steps 4 and 5 for the following keys:
In each case add <seq>Num+[x]</seq>
where you replace [x] with the number in the line above it (this is specifying which numpad key will be a shortcut for the command).
I also recommend adding Num+0 as a shortcut for the "rest" key.
When you are finished editing, save the file.
In MuseScore, import the new keyboard shortcut mappings
Edit > Preferences > Shortcuts > Import
That's it! This worked for me on Windows 10. I've attached my finished XML file which you can import to skip steps 1-7.
In reply to I had this problem when I… by nathanielgranor
thank you, this has fixed it.
In reply to I had this problem when I… by nathanielgranor
Importing the musescore_shortcuts_edited.xml file worked on a Mac (Monterey). So far anyway.
BTW, I didn't see it mentioned, but the up and down arrows did not work either (for changing note pitch).
(The arrows did work for some other shortcuts)
In reply to I had this problem when I… by nathanielgranor
Your file works great! Thank You I wish I had it explained earlier. You should make it clear that the import of the .xml file is performed in Edit>Preferences>Shortcuts using the 'Import' button. I certainly recommend exporting and saving a backup copy of the default settings. Simple and it works!
In reply to I had this problem when I… by nathanielgranor
Nathaniel, I'm lost - SO LOST - without the numpad to enter rhythmic equivalents, I'm at the end of my rope. So I'm sincerely asking: where do I find information on how to do what you have done? As another contributor wrote, "I'm a musician, not a computer programmer!" I would hate to "break" my v4 since I can't use v3 to work on what I've already started. How can I apply what you have kindly suggested FOR THE LAY PERSON?? Any guidance is greatly appreciate by, I'm sure, ALL.
In reply to Nathaniel, I'm lost - SO… by petecrosta
Click the XML file linked above to download and save to your computer. Now in MuseScore, go to Edit / Preferences / Shortcuts, and click the Import button. Select the file you just download. Then hit Open to load the file, and OK to exit the Preferences dialog.
To be safe, close all open MuseScore windows before doing the above, and close again when you finish.
In reply to Click the XML file linked… by Marc Sabatella
OMG!!! Marc, I followed your directions and it works!!!!!!! I am absolutely thrilled. Nathaniel, thank you for providing the solution and Marc for the guidance to make it happen.
In reply to OMG!!! Marc, I followed your… by petecrosta
yes, Marc, it has worked, thank you! I will now start working on my new pieces.
Thank you
In reply to Click the XML file linked… by Marc Sabatella
I can not find the link to your .XML file. Where should it be please?
Thanks anyway because I also suffer with the num pad.
In reply to I can not find the link to… by Koekidino
See this post:
https://musescore.org/en/node/341167
In reply to I had this problem when I… by nathanielgranor
Thanks man, fixed! 👍
In reply to I had this problem when I… by nathanielgranor
Exactly what I needed, thanks
In reply to I had this problem when I… by nathanielgranor
Very useful. Thanks!
In reply to I had this problem when I… by nathanielgranor
It worked marvels!!!! Oh thank you very much!
In reply to I had this problem when I… by nathanielgranor
Thank you, @nathanielgranor, for doing all the dirty work, and providing a solution to a problem which should never have existed in the first place!
In reply to I had this problem when I… by nathanielgranor
Thank you! You make me to move to ms4.
See #336170: Number Keypad keys not definable for keyboard shortcuts
With the new MS4 downloaded yesterday, using Mac, the numPad persists with bad will. Even with the keyboard using capitals.
And generally it looks as if the user was confronted to a total new application.
But let's be optimistic, time will solve all the issues.
In reply to With the new MS4 downloaded… by pental
Did you attempt to import the xml file mentioned in the comment just a bit above yours?
In reply to Did you attempt to import… by jeetee
Numeric keypad re-works here with the xml file in attachment here: https://musescore.org/en/node/336491#comment-1154706
Thanks.
But always not for input the fret numbers in TAB staff with standard numeric keys. Still forced to use Shift key + number to achieve this (or input numbers with the... letters, A=0, B=1, etc.)
I tried to edit (e.g. this sequence - image below) by deleting the word 'Shift+' (and by keeping the 3 only) in the second line. Alas, apparently, this action has all broken ! How I could edit this text with a better manner?
In reply to Works here with the xml file… by cadiz1
What letter is "Shift+3" on your keyboard? Try using that instead
In reply to What letter is "Shift+3" on… by Jojo-Schmitz
Hmm, as per https://musescore.org/en/node/338930 that doesn't work either
In reply to What letter is "Shift+3" on… by Jojo-Schmitz
See also #338932: Impossible to assign a shortcut to shift+number
In reply to See also #338932: Impossible… by Jojo-Schmitz
With version 3, I see this sequence - first image below. Maybe I should try to edit the V4 shortcuts for TABs (2th image) in the same way?
So, v.s (version V4)
In reply to With the new MS4 downloaded… by pental
the fix is quite easy, see Marc as above
In reply to This user is very… by -xebo-
I will keep repeating this as long as you will keep repeating your end:
It didn't work for all users before either.. It just so happened that the other method worked for you by default. Now it by default works for a ton of users for which it previously didn't. Luckily as evidenced by the xml update method the fix seems to be easy (as long as it doesn't affect those for whom the current method is their fix after a long time).
I would not expect an immediate bugfix release just for this, when a fairly easy workaround (import the provided xml file) is available and other, more critical scenarios are yet to be addressed. Combine this with most of the internal team taking holidays in this time of year I'd expect no release before the end of January.
In reply to I will keep repeating this… by jeetee
I don't understand how this new way would work for people better than the old way. To me it just seems like a bug.
I'm used to setting my own shortcuts, but even when I do that the numpad just doesn't respond. It seems like the issue is the shortcuts dashboard is mistakenly inputting "2" rather than "num2", etc. **
I mean, sure it may not be the biggest problem, on the other hand if Microsoft Word put out a version where the spacebar just didn't work unless you import or edit an xml file, people would be a little confused.
**EDIT: I ended up fixing mine by deleting all the shortcuts for "enter TAB". I thought I took care of it by deleting the shortcuts for "Set duration" (TAB) but I missed "enter TAB". But I'm still confused about this, if the program is supposed to prevent you from using the same shortcut for multiple things it should have deleted these when I set the new ones up.
I'm sure it'll all get fixed. Just wanted to relay in case someone else has the same issue.
In reply to I don't understand how this… by chrismcqueenmusic
For the "I don't understand how this new way would work for people better than the old way. To me it just seems like a bug." part.
It is a bug; there's no mistaking or denying that. But the "old way" also had bugs; those simply affected other people than you.
Pretty much sums up the MuseScore 4 experience, lots promised, much bugged. The number row works, the numpad, does not.
I am in awe at what Musescore has done over these last years but I find it difficult to believe in the spectacular Musescore 4 the numpad doesn't work. When can we expect it to work? Having to use the number row at the top of the keyboard is like buying a new car and learn you have to open the trunk to turn on the indicator light when you make a turn. Come on Musescore!
In reply to I am in awe at what… by Graham Hunt
It works for some but not others, just as was true in MU3. It's just that some of the people for whom it worked before, it doesn't work for now, and vice versa. And there is a simple workaround, as explained above. Meanwhile, work is ongoing to find a solution that will work for everyone.
Short summary of workaround - download this file and then go to Edit / Preferences / Shortcuts and import it.
In reply to It works for some but not… by Marc Sabatella
FYI: An alternate fix is to go to Edit > Preferences > Reset preferences. I imagine some old preferences from version 3 or earlier carried over poorly to MuseScore 4. Disclaimer: This action will of course wipe out any custom preferences you've set.
In reply to FYI: An alternate fix is to… by David Bolton
This may indeed help, but surely not because of leftover settings from Mu3, those are entirely independent and unrelated
How is this "feature" still missing after the recent update?
Also, I imported my preference settings from MS3 and this didn't transfer.
I don't want to sound rude, but this is one of the most practical and useful user input method, it should really be a priority imho.
In reply to How is this "feature" still… by brkncd
NumPad work for me. But you may nbeed to revert to factors settings or at least locate and remove shortcuts.xml for those fixes in 4.0.2 to take effect
In reply to NumPad work for me. But you… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thank you for your suggestions.
I resetted my preferences (and I'm now going through the process of setting up my workspace again) and that worked. But as soon as I import my shortcut list it stops working. I guess I'll have to re-enter every shortuct manually?
Edit: while I was entering my shortcuts MuseScore just crashed
In reply to Thank you for your… by brkncd
'import shortuts' is doomed to reinstate the broken shortcuts from before the factory reset
I edit my shortcuts.xml 'by hand'... see attached. May or may not work for you.