Score layout /printing
Please see attachment. My previous problem on score layout of this file was not answered. Please see page 8 of the attachment. The score is cut off at the bottom. I wanted to print that page. The other pages of the score already printed OK, but not this page. I'm printing on 8 1/2 X 11 paper. Thank you.
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Your page is too small or your music is too big (or both). As you want to print on 8 1/2 x 11 paper you need to reduce the size of the music. Go to Format>Page settings and reduce the staff space scaling or reduce the size of the bottom margin or do both. Make sure that all your pages fit before finalising those settings.
Also look at the accents on that page. You can see in the inspector that some of them have large y offsets - i.e. large vertical offsets. Right click on one and in the pop up menu use Select all similar and then press the circular arrow next to the y offset to reset them all to their default position. That will save quite a bit of space. You may find other elements are similarly out of position. You can do the same with those.
You can also move some of those forte markings left or right so they don't force a wide separation between staves to avoid collision with the "a2" texts. Those "a2" texts have large y offsets as well. Try reducing those.
In reply to Your page is too small or… by SteveBlower
I seem to recall that somewhere formerly on MS at the top was a command you could give to "shrink to fit" for printing. Am I correct?
In reply to I seem to recall that… by delhud2
Should depend on the printer driver. Or the printing application, like Adobe Acrobat does this with PDFs
In reply to Should depend on the printer… by Jojo-Schmitz
Hmmm.. OK
In reply to Should depend on the printer… by Jojo-Schmitz
So could I use Adobe Acrobat to shrink scores? I've been reading up on Adobe Acrobat but some of the info is confusing. I'm beginning to wonder if I should just get a printer that will handle maybe up to legal size paper. I would think the long length could handle most big orchestral scores. Why do I sometimes see "how do you wish to open this file? in MS and a list appears with adobe acrobat on it? I just checked back into my opera did on MS years ago and the full score, often with 28 staves for orchestra and singers printed beautifully on 8 1/2 X11 paper. How did that manage to happen. ? I dont recall doing anything special to get that to work.
In reply to So could I use Adobe Acrobat… by delhud2
Any printer that can handle letter can also handle legal, since they are the same width (8.5"). But, legal paper isn't really ideal for conductors to work from - it's an awkward dimension, too tall for its width. Better to use 11x17 if you're planning on having this performed. This requires a wide format printer - usually they handle up to 13" width, which is more than enough. You can buy those for not a whole lot of money, but, you can also run out to the local copy shop and they can print it for you 11x17, also bind it while they're at it.
If you're not planning on having it performed, just leave it letter but use a small staff size. no need to mess with Acrobat.
In reply to Your page is too small or… by SteveBlower
I did ttighten upo the page as you suggestd still didn't work. (Page 8)
I don't see any posts from you within the last year that were not answered - it's possible you simply missed the response? Or you never actually posted what you thnk you did? If you click your name here in this thread, you can see the list of all your posts and the responses to them.
In reply to I don't see any posts from… by Marc Sabatella
Yes, I have always received replies. I should have said that at times I didn't understand a tech point completely. The Forum has been invaluable.
ALL this is very strange. I entered this score I believe in 2019. It went very smoothly. So why am I having trouble even viewing each score page now? Should I make the MS page size bigger and then make it shrink to 8 1/2 X11 paper. have there been changes in MS over the years?
In reply to ALL this is very strange. I… by delhud2
You have too small a paper size for your staff size. Nothing changed in MuseScore here, but perhaps you had been using continuous view, which ignores your selected page size and just presents one long infinite canvas? Anyhow, no getting around the laws of physics on this. If you want to print this - or export to PDF, or just view in page view - you'll need either a bigger page size, or smaller staff size, or both. Both settings are in Format / Page Settings, just as they were in 2019.
In reply to You have too small a paper… by Marc Sabatella
OK. I already have this score printed as I said earlier on; just 2 pages were a problem I will just have to figure this out on my own. (I don't think I used continuous view.)
In reply to OK. I already have this… by delhud2
The 2 problem pages are full tutti pages.
In reply to OK. I already have this… by delhud2
NO need to figure it out on your own - I just gave you the exact solution. Go to Format / Page Settings, and either choose bigger paper or smaller staff size. You simply cannot fit staves that big on letter sized paper - it won't fit, period Wouldn't have fit in 2019, doesn't fit today, won't fit in our lifetimes. You need bigger paper or smaller staves, period.
In reply to You have too small a paper… by Marc Sabatella
> Nothing changed in MuseScore here
I'm not sure, I think some automatic placements have been optimized since then. This may result in more (or less) space being needed on a page. But not to this extent.
@delhud2: I'm quite sure this score (SYMPHONY_NO._IV_In_C_Minor_By.mscz) did never fit on a Letter/ANSI A page with your staff space settings.
Attached you can find the sheet with smaller staff space and reduced page margins. It fits on a letter/ANSI A sheet. Does it fit for you?
In reply to > Nothing changed in… by HildeK
And the attached file will print to 8.5 by 11. I may have deleted some accents trying to fixthe hairpins and dynamics. See what you think.
In reply to And the attached file will… by bobjp
Page Settings shows your attachment as a "Custom" page size, not 8.5.by 11.
Hildek's attachment shows "Letter / ANSI A" which is 8.5 by 11.
In reply to Page Settings shows your… by Jm6stringer
Oh yes, his page width is 8.55 and not 8.5 inches.
The main problems in his score are many misplaced, manually shifted elements, such as dynamics labels, articulation signs, hairpins. They cost space unnecessarily.
I didn't notice that at first.
In reply to Page Settings shows your… by Jm6stringer
Yes, it shows Custom. It still prints to 8.5 by 11, which is all I claimed. I only made enough corrections to make all staves fit on the page. There are many more things that need to be corrected. Many.
If you change the score to 8.5 by 11, then you will have to make everything that much smaller to fit the page. Just depends on how small the OP wants to go.