Math with Musescore
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I am studying Pythagorean arithmetic and would like to listen to my mathematics. However, this arithmetic is in whole numbers only. What options are there with Musescore?
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Many properties in Musescore are whole numbers, including:
• TAB Fret numbers
• MIDI pitch numbers
• MIDI velocity numbers
• Measure numbers
In reply to Many properties in Musescore… by yonah_ag
I want to generate tones in whole numbers. 100, 200 300... I am figuring the intervals from any given tonic.
In reply to I want to generate tones in… by Rockhoven
A piano has around 88 notes in steps of semi-tones so you may struggle to find an instrument with 100+ whole-tones. Maybe you could work in pitch frequency with a unit of measure such as 1/10th Hz, so your whole number of 100 would be 100 x 1/10 = 10 Hz etc. Alternatively you could compress your tone range to fit an instrument's number of tones.
In reply to A piano has around 81 notes… by yonah_ag
Basically, I need to know how to tune Musescore in whole numbers. Can I do this across the score or will I have to tune each individual note? I am wondering if someone has already done this and I can listen to their files? Ziya might have done something like this.
In reply to Basically, I need to know… by Rockhoven
What do you mean by tune MuseScore in whole numbers? Sounds like you are expecting the software to create a piece. Or are you writing it yourself? So you can't use half steps.
As I understand it, whole tone scales have six notes. Wouldn't you use those notes, just as you would use the notes in any scale? Except you can't modulate. Or change keys.
In reply to Basically, I need to know… by Rockhoven
As far as I know, MuseScore works with equal temperament. (Frequency factor: 12th root of 2).
So for Pythagorean tuning (or other variants) you will probably need to correct each note.
I think you know the necessary differences - if not, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorean_tuning
See also the image https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorean_tuning#/media/File:Music_inte… and the details of the image description for it.
Pythagorean arithmetic is only a special case of mathematics. I am interested in hearing my calculations. I would like to compose using a calculator, generating the tones mathematically directly into the score. I guess I can make my composition here in the forum, using math, but we won't be able to hear it.
I could call up the calculator and Musescore would store all of my calculations whether inside or outside of the audible range. Then I could also enter certain sums, factors, quotients and products into the score. I could look under the hood to see my calculations and understand how I arrived at a tone.
I don't want the technicians to decide what "sounds good" or not. So, if the mood strikes me I could begin with a Pythagorean triple (3, 4, 5.) Square those to 9, 16, 25, multiply or square them again to bring them up into the audible range and listen to them. In the case of 3, 4, 5, the transposition into the audible range might be 300, 400 500, or 900, 1600, 2500 or any other choice that I make.
This would allow me to figure the tones using Pythagorean arithmetic (whole numbers) or to divide octaves into equal or unequal parts, not only 12 equal parts, but as many equal parts as the calculator can handle.
This system would effectively encompass any and all systems of intonation. I don't need the 12 tone system. The problem is the range of sound fonts available. I would want to generate a wav file even at 1 hz or a fraction of a hz because it is a viewable wav when loaded to a DAW.
I am inspired by some things that Plato says about harmony in the Republic and in the Timaeus.
NOTE: This idea does not apply to the use of analog instruments with a traditional score.
I am considering the possibility of joining math to music more closely in a new musical notation system based upon whole number math. The Pythagorean comma can be distributed as the digital composition/performance proceeds. I have a basic python code generated by a chatbot. We are talking about an orchestra of mathematicians performing from their laptops with assistance from an LLM. According to my hypothesis, due to recent technological developments, we can now return to whole number math in composition and performance.
I am wondering if there is a programmer who would like to look at this idea. I would be surprised if the idea is not already out there and i imagine that this instrument could be designed from preexisting open source code, possibly some of the MUSE or Musescore code?
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In reply to I am discussing the… by Rockhoven
And then there are some of the things Plato says about music.
"Music's role in the state
Plato believed that music should be controlled by the state and that its purpose should be to promote virtues like courage and temperance.
Music's relationship to reason
Plato believed that music's emotional appeal challenged the dominance of reason.
Music's relationship to instrumental music
Plato believed that instrumental music was less valuable than vocal music because it couldn't provide an unequivocal imitation of emotions."
In reply to I am discussing the… by Rockhoven
That's definitely not something that MuseScore can do at this time. I would be immensely surprised if the development team were interested in doing something so radically far away from the current aim of the program, which is creating Western notation/scores. If you want to join the development team (it's open source, so anyone can join), I'm sure they would be happy to have you and you could fulfill your dream and incorporate it into MuseScore. However, it would actually be EASIER (even MUCH EASIER) to simply create an entirely new program to do this. MuseScore Studio is simply not the best tool for such a project.
But no one but you (and a tiny handful of others) would ever use it.
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