12/16
Hi, fellow music aficionados.
How to write groups of 2 eight dotted notes (1 dotted eight = eq.2 sixteenths) in a 12/16 time signature situation?
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Hi, fellow music aficionados.
How to write groups of 2 eight dotted notes (1 dotted eight = eq.2 sixteenths) in a 12/16 time signature situation?
Thank you.
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See here for information on how to create and apply a time signature. This also includes information on how to specify the default beam grouping of notes. https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/time-signatures.
If tou only want to adjust the grouping in specific places see here see here https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/beams
In reply to See here for information on… by SteveBlower
Thanks for your reply. I have indeed consulted the links you kindly recommended. However...the specific configuration as explained in my initial post is not covered. At least I don't know how to do this.
Do you mean 1 dotted eighth = 3 sixteenths ?
In reply to Do you mean 1 dotted eighth … by rothers
Yes..like Bach's Fuga in C# Minor from the WTC Book 2.It's written in 12/16. One dotted eight note = 3 sixteenths.
In reply to Yes..like Bach's Fuga in C#… by FelixMaria
@FelixMaria
![Bach_Fuga_IV.png]( "Bach_Fuga_IV.png")
This is what we are talking about:
I tried to produce a model score to show how easy it is - and I failed... This is what I ended up with:
![Bach_Fuga_IV_custom_beaming_failure.png]( "Bach_Fuga_IV_custom_beaming_failure.png")
So for example in 12/16:
![Time_signature_12-16.png]( "Time_signature_12-16.png")
Create your own 12/16 time signature.
![Time Signatures.png]( "Time Signatures.png")
Change the beam (see my cursor) to get two groups of eighth notes.
See the picture: If you don't change the beam, it looks like measure 1. If you do, it will look like measure 2. And the eighth notes will be grouped as in measure 2.
Also think about how you want to group the 16th and 32nd notes.
In reply to Create your own 12/16 time… by HildeK
Hi.
Thank you very much. I will try this.
🙏
In reply to Hi. Thank you very much. I… by FelixMaria
Hi. I have created the 12/16 signature. But unlike in your example, I get 6 eight notes instead of 4.
In reply to Hi. I have created the 12/16… by FelixMaria
Yes, of course!
A 12/16 time signature can have twelve sixteenth notes or six eighth notes or three quarter notes or four dotted eighth notes. If you change the beams as shown (you can also do this in the time signature properties) and then write dotted eighth notes, they will be grouped as shown.
That's how I did it in my example (with 3.6.2).
But you asked about dotted eighth notes ...
It may also be that I didn't quite understand your question.
In reply to Yes, of course! A 12/16 time… by HildeK
@HildeK
The example I posted was done with MS 4.1.1 - and I ended up very confused!
And by the way, I still use MS 3.6.2 for all my serious work.
In reply to @HildeK The example I posted… by DanielR
I usually don't suspect that things that work well in 3.6.2 have a problem in version 4. Someone with a better knowledge of English should add that here https://musescore.org/en/node/334701. [EDIT] ... or report it on Github.
Thank you very much for trying to reproduce this in version 4.
And I still have to get into the habit of always stating which version my findings come from and that it may not work in version 4 after all ... :-)
In reply to Yes, of course! A 12/16 time… by HildeK
Hello. I am aware of that. I was referring to the dotted eights as shown in your example bar 2. For some reason, MS 4 does not seem to provide this.😞
Danke.
In reply to Hello. I am aware of that. I… by FelixMaria
If you select the third note of measure 1 from my example and click on "Beam start" in the beam palette, the four notes with common beams will become two groups.
This is of course cumbersome because it has to be done separately for each measure. However, you can also select all these notes with Ctrl+mouse click and change the beams together. Unfortunately, this is still cumbersome.
In reply to If you select the third note… by HildeK
Hi Hilde,
Please check the example, especially the marked section.
I really don't know how to realize this and I need help.
I am using MS 4.
Vielen Dank für Ihre Freundlichkeit, diesem alten Mann hier zu helfen.🙏
In reply to Hi Hilde, Please check the… by FelixMaria
Ich bin auch ein alter Mann - deshalb: bleib bei HildeK :-).
Und offenbar kann ich auch in Deutsch schreiben ...
Es sieht so aus, dass MuS 4 mit der Erstellung von eigenen Taktarten und dem Zuordnen der Balkengruppierung noch ein Problem hat. Ich kann MuS 4 leider nicht nutzen.
Deshalb bleibt Dir vermutlich nur die Möglichkeit, über die Balkeneigenschaften nachträglich zu ändern. Das geht mit der Palette "Balkeneigenschaften". https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/beams#Controlling_which_notes_are_b…
Leider nur einzeln für jede Stelle, die Du anders haben willst.
Um eine Unterbrechung des Balkens herbeizuführen, selektiere die darauf folgende Note und drücke in der Palette auf das zweite Symbol. Dann wird dort der Balken unterbrochen.
![beam_properties_palette.png]( "beam_properties_palette.png")
[Translation by deepl.com:]
I'm an old man too - so stick with HildeK :-).
And apparently I can also write in German ...
It looks like MuS 4 still has a problem with creating custom time signatures and assigning the beam grouping. Unfortunately, I cannot use MuS 4.
Therefore, you probably only have the option of making subsequent changes via the beam properties. You can do this with the "Beam Properties" palette. https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/beams#Controlling_which_notes_are_b…
Unfortunately only individually for each place you want to change.
To interrupt the beam, select the following note and click on the second symbol in the palette. The beam will then be interrupted.
In reply to Ich bin auch ein alter Mann … by HildeK
Hallo.
Thank you so much.I finally managed to fix this.
Much obliged.🙏