Musescore problem with interpreting El es el Senor sheet music

• Nov 8, 2024 - 17:53

Hi Hildek

Thank you for your email.

I wish to set down the basic reasons for choosing Musescore.

  1. I am now 74 years old and I have chosen to again take up playing the trombone. To put that into context, I last played a trombone in a brass band around 55 years ago. I read music and have been playing guitar and keyboards a lot.

  2. I needed a tool that would efficiently, constructively and quickly be able to bring a piece of music to life, so that I could practice the 2nd trombone parts by playing along with the digital music. The brass band music has certainly changed appreciably over the last 50 years and virtually all the music is totally new to me.

  3. For me, playing the notes is not that difficult but perfecting those notes into the required syncopation and rhythm needs a lot of practice.

  4. I scanned the 2nd trombone sheet music for El es el Señor and send downloaded this to MuseScore.

  5. What I received back from Musescore was not even close to being useable for the purpose I intended it to be.

  6. For a start, the Musescore version left out the first four bar rest. Looking at the sheet music, I cannot see that the composer - Dean Jones - had contradicted any traditional music conditions in the way the 4 bar rest was written.

  7. Next, the Musescore version left out the two quaver rests between the first two notes! As you can imagine, I am sure that you will understand that this did not give me a warm feeling in my stomach that I had chosen the right platform to achieve my aims!

  8. No to be outdone, I decided to undertake the extremely laborious re-writing of the Musescore version so that I could actually use it for a piece that I played at a concert last night.

  9. I got ten bars into the re-write and suddenly the second line was taken up by one bar! This was ’stretch’ too far and that I was why I made the post on your website.

I refer to your comment - “… If you are writing the score, system breaks are not necessary and rather harmful…".

No doubt you are correct about this but I am not aware of my attempt to re-write the music, into a useable form, including anything like inserting a “system break”.

That just happened and I was unable to discover a simple fix for this obvious error in Miusescore.

This is the link to the Musescore piece that was returned to me -
FILENAME UPLOADED RESULT
EL ES EL SENOR - Dean Jones - V2.pdf a day ago Downloa
This is the El es el Señor piece that I submitted to Musescore -

Please will you advise me why Musescore was unable to properly interpret this clear piece of music and why Musescore did not warn me that I would have to basically rewrite each piece of music to get it to work.

Regards

Keith Horwood
206 348 8205

Attachment Size
Music - El Es El Senor #2049.pdf 2.29 MB

Comments

The PDF converter on musescore.com is pretty experimental and outdated, better use Audiveris directly on your PC. Or transcribe it by hand, quite often that is faster and easier than fixing the mess of the PDF import

In reply to by Jojo-Schmitz

Thank you for your reply.

Unfortunately there seem to be complications on top of complications!!

It seems like I am going from the frying pan into the fire! I have read through another Forum post on installing Audoveris into Musescore and it seems even more complicated.

Is there a simple step by step guide on installing this Audoveris programme into Musescore on my MacbookPro?

In reply to by horwoodkeh

Because MuseScore is not a PDF to MXL (or musicxml?) converter. They included a web-based, completely automated version of tool that really requires manual tweaking as a sop to people who insist on using a tool in a fashion it is not intended for. There are good tools out there to convert PDF to MXL*. Why should MuseScore re-invent the wheel?

  • Apparently? I've never used one. Like Jojo, I have manually entered all my scores.

The two times I've used the webpage, it converted the .PDF file sufficiently well that it made sense to correct it rather than manually enter. Most of the scores that I have created are not convertible by ANY program. (E.g., images of hand-written scores)

If your score is long enough to make it worthwhile to try scanning it, you might as well use a tool that is intended for that purpose. And then use MuseScore for its intended purpose: layout and playback.

In reply to by TheHutch

To quote Borat - Wa wa wee wa! Thank you kindly for the concise answer to my question and the way it can be solved.

As with any challenge (read problem!) it is so much easier to solve it if you have a good understanding of what is causing the challenge.

Thankfully I have access to somebody who is infinitely more computer-literate than I am and, thankfully, also happens to be an accomplished muso. I will keep you posted on our progress.

> Please will you advise me why Musescore was unable to properly interpret this clear piece of music
Your template is quite poor and also has handwritten entries. If you want to get a reasonably usable result, then the templates must be in very good condition and then it is not certain that it is error-free.

In that case, I would simply copy the template. It's quicker than correcting the errors.
Done in an hour (MuS 3.7, check it carefully):

Attachment Size
Él_Es_Èl_Senor.mscz 30.51 KB

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