I can't seem to get Dynamics to work.
I'm currently importing a .mid file and trying to add dynamics to it, but whenever I set one for a group of notes the playback will not follow them and will instead play every note in the same dynamic. I figured it might be a velocity issue, so I tried setting it to Zero for the entire section I'm trying to add dynamics to, but nothing seems to be working. Perhaps my issue is whenever I change the velocity to zero it always changes it back to 64?
If you're willing to look into it, attached to this message is the song I'm trying to adjust dynamics on. Specifically, the "Piano, pitch channel 3" section. Thank you for your time and have a good day!
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It may have to do with what ever jummbus bitbucket is. When I copy the notes into a different score, dynamics work.
In reply to It may have to do with what… by bobjp
Huh. I'll have to give that a try when I get back. Thanks!
In reply to It may have to do with what… by bobjp
First, I tried resetting the Velocity on the notes to the default (64). No effect. I created a new (Piano) Instrument and copied the notes (including the rest Velocity!) from the existing Piano staves to the new one. Still no effect. However, if I manually entered the notes and then the dynamics they worked.
@bobjp, you say you simply copied the notes to a different score and they worked without further adjustments? So, the score has the notes marked to ignore dynamics??? That seems unlikely, but appears to match what we hear happening. *shrug* I've heard of odd things happening with the dynamics of notes entered with a MIDI device, but I've never explored it.
[A few moments later] Well, I tried copying the notes into another new, blank score and they do not react to dynamic markings, neither dynamics copied from the original nor added anew. So, it looks like my first conclusion above is incorrect: whatever setting is in place is NOT attached to the score but to the notes themselves.
[A few moments later still] I observe that the notes in the Part are an unusual color (sort of "peach"?) when selected. The color does not appear to match any of the colors of Voices 1-4 (as set on my computer). When I change the Voice of a given note, it changes to match the Voice color I have set. On my first attempt, when I changed some of the notes to a different Voice and then changed them explicitly to Voice 1, the notes played attached dynamics, but I could not repeat the effect when I tried doing the same to other notes :-(
In reply to First, I tried resetting the… by TheHutch
@TheHutch It sounds like you're having an even stranger issue with it then I am, but I bet you're right about it being something weird with importing it from MiDi. I took my piano section (CTRL+A) and copied it to a different score, and then the dynamics worked again. I don't know why some of the notes turn a peach color because they're all literally the same chord, but when that's not happening it seems to work for me. I think I should be all set, but if you figure anything else out about it I'd love to hear. Thanks!
In reply to First, I tried resetting the… by TheHutch
Peach color.....is appearing when the main score and part are not 100% in sync. In this case the style/appearance is no longer the same in both.
OK. Of course the dynamics worked when I copied the notes into a new score because i was stupid and forgot that the new score used Muse sounds. When I changed it to Basic sounds, dynamics did not work. No idea why.
So I created a new piano score. I made sure it used Basic sounds. Then I entered the the first measure of notes. Fortunately, the OE part is the same for each measure. So I selected the measure and hit "R" enough times to recreate the entire part. Then I entered the pp and ppp dynamics to the first measure. These dynamics worked.
Then I went back to the original score and deleted the Piano part. I saved with a new name. I reopened the score and added a piano part making sure it used Basic sounds. I copied the other piano part into the new part and the dynamics worked.
No idea why this was all needed. Except maybe as I noted in my firs post.
In reply to OK. Of course the dynamics… by bobjp
I saved the MS file as an uncompressed MuseScore folder and have compared the contents of the mscx file with the contents of another score (new score created with just a piano).
Interesting differences found in that.
The file created from the midi import contains more details for each instrument.
For each instrument there are Articulations defined with a velocity and a gatetime.
The channel definitions also includes the midiPort + midiChannel and also includes a controller setting.
This is CC 7, which is used to set the Volume for the channel.
Each instrument has a different value set, for the piano part it is set to 57.
Guessing the midi import function in MS recognizes this information and stores it in the file.
However there is no other means to control/change this data in MS.
In the midi imported file, the velocity of the notes is also set to 64.
Many difference compared to the version created manually.
I used a text editor to remove all the "extra" instrument definitions and CC 7 controllers.
Opened it in MS and saved it as regular mscz file.
The dynamics are now working.
A nice exercise to investigate.
Can you perhaps share the midi file as well?
Think that may help identifying what information in the midi is triggering this behaviour.