Roman Numeral Analysis
I need help! In C major, how would you display this chord in Roman Numeral Analysis? :
F, Ab, C, D
I need help! In C major, how would you display this chord in Roman Numeral Analysis? :
F, Ab, C, D
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iv6
In reply to iv6 by Pentatonus
I wouldn't be iv6 because that chord would be spelled like this: Ab C F
iv6 is just f minor in 1st inversion
In reply to I wouldn't be iv6 because… by nnn6nnn
No, that would be ivb.
In reply to I wouldn't be iv6 because… by nnn6nnn
It's an unfortunate fact of life in the 21st century that the number 6 can mean both "triad in first version" and also "chord with added sixth". Usually we don't use it the latter way in Roman numeral analysis because sixths aren't functionally significant. Which is to say, we ignore sixths when done analysis. But you did specifically ask about it.
Context is also relevant. If it resolves directly to I (or iii), I would call it a iv chord (with an added sixth that may not be significant enough to include in the analysis). If it's resolving to V, I would be more likely to consider it a half-diminished ii in first inversion.
Either way, that's really just nomenclature; the actual "analysis" is that the chord is borrowed from the parallel minor.
In reply to Context is also relevant. … by Marc Sabatella
The chord I'm talking about it the 4th beat in measure 1 ...
https://www.noteflight.com/scores/view/962aa8a8b96371054e1c57af75e46010…
I put what I think the roman numeral chords would be.
In reply to The chord I'm talking about… by nnn6nnn
I only see a melody line there. By "context", mean everything - the full four=part harmonization showing the chord you are interested in as well as what came before and after, so we can understand the harmonic function.
In reply to I only see a melody line… by Marc Sabatella
Everything I have is in that noteflight link:
https://www.noteflight.com/scores/view/962aa8a8b96371054e1c57af75e46010…
Measure 1 beat 4 is the chord I'm talking about, although a few of the other ones might be wrong too
In reply to Everything I have is in that… by nnn6nnn
To me, the downbeat of the second measure is problematic - that's not any sort of "normal" chord in the style of music that this language is designed to describe, nor does the name you attached actually fit it. It seems you are going for the sound of a V chord with a 4-3 suspension, but the 4 is doubled and not properly prepared in the soprano.
Anyhow, sorting that out - not just what to call it, but how you actually want to handle the voice leading - would be a necessary first step in naming the chord you have been asking about.
BTW, are you aware you have parallel octaves in through the first three beats?
In reply to To me, the downbeat of the… by Marc Sabatella
Ok
And yes, I know that. Is that a problem for analyzing or something?
In reply to Ok… by nnn6nnn
The parallel octaves? No, it just means if this is a school assignment, you will likely get dinged for it. If it's not for a school assignment, then it also help to understand your goal in performing the analysis, as that too can affect how the analysis is best performed.
In reply to The parallel octaves? No,… by Marc Sabatella
I'm doing an independent study in high school for music analysis. I have to make my own assignments and stuff. So it's not a grade in regards to correctness, rather than if I have proof that I'm doing stuff for the course I made.