musescore 3 deleted
Mcvanrongen
Mar 27, 15:26 CET
I've had to delete musescore 3 because it has a lot of disadvantages.
1. I work with a numbersystems for disabled people. All numbers are on wrong places now. If I open the sheets in musescore 3, I can't get them back in musescore 2, so I have lost these sheets. 2. If I want to write numbers above the notes, I have to click the note each time I have copied the number. Too much work. With musescore 2 I could copy and go to the next note.
I hope you can change these things.
I'm frightened that when musescore 2 doesn't excist anymore, I can't work with musescore anymore.
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Why should MuseScore ever cease to exist?
In reply to Why should MuseScore ever… by Jojo-Schmitz
I had that problem with musescore 1 too. The numbers changed too then and I couldn't open musescore 1 anymore.
In reply to I had that problem with… by mcvanrongen
What numbers changed?
Anyway, MuseScore 1 too is still available and can work on the same computer at the same time. So scores created with it can still be opened with it.
I have installed MuseScore 1.3, 2.3.2 and 3.0.5 and use all three. I also have portable apps for almost all 1.x and 2.x versions and use those too at times.
In reply to What numbers changed? Anyway… by Jojo-Schmitz
Wow. I have to try that out. I always thought I couldn't open the sheets of musescore 1 anymore
Actually, you can get back to MuseScore 2. Just export your sheet in MuseScore 3 to xml. Then you can import the xml-document into a Musescore 2 installation.
Opening a score in MuseScore 3 doesn't make it unreadable by version 2. Saving it on top of the existing score is the only thing that does that, and MuseScore warns you that you are replacing the other score. This means it takes an extra step to render a score unreadable by version 2. You should really keep your version 2 and version 3 scores separate and MuseScore tries to do this for you. So unless you changed directories when you saved the version 3 score, your version 2 score is still where you left it.
Can you please attach a score where you are having trouble understanding how to place numbers? In general, most scores from MuseScore 2 should look similar or better when opened in MuseScore 3. However, there were a lot of very major improvements, and some scores that used a lot of manual adjustments that depended on details of how MuseScore 2 placed things won't look the same by default indeed. For those scores it is often simplest to just continue to use MuseScore 2, but it also usually takes only minutes to update them to look even better in MuseScore 3, and we're very happy to help.
I'm not sure how you are using numbers, but one huge advantage MuseScore 3 has when it comes to placing text above the notes is, you can press Alt+Right while typing the text over one note, and the cursor automatically moves to the next note and allows to enter more text. Thus you can very quickly enter text over each note of the score in a fraction of the time it would have taken in MuseScore 2.
In reply to Can you please attach a… by Marc Sabatella
I don't have trouble with placing the numbers in Musescore 3. I'm having trouble with the old sheets that I already have in musescore 2. If I don't delete musescore 3, the sheets that I open or download will be opened in musescore 3 and the numbers will change. If I try to get it back to musescore 2 it says: this document has to be opened in a newer version. I have upladed an old file, and I think it will be changed if opened in musescore 3.
In reply to I don't have trouble with… by mcvanrongen
Btw.: It's always possible to export a MuseScore 3.x file inside the menu via file->export... with the "musicxml" extension and open this score with MuseScore 2.x.
In reply to Btw.: It's always possible… by kuwitt
and will the numbers be in the right place then?
In reply to and will the number be in… by mcvanrongen
see below.
In reply to I don't have trouble with… by mcvanrongen
After a short test: I opened your score with MuseScore 3, denied the question to reset the position, selected a number, selected right click->all similar elements and deselected the automatic placement inside the inspector.
In reply to After a short test: I opened… by kuwitt
I can't open this one. I have to open it with the newest version musescore 3
In reply to I can't open this one. I… by mcvanrongen
You can't open this one while MuseScore 3.x isn't installed - it's saved with MuseScore 3.0.5.
But maybe as summary:
In reply to I don't have trouble with… by mcvanrongen
Opening of not the problem, but saving is. And not even that if you don't overwrite the existing score but save it under a different name or in a different folder, as MuseScore tries to make sure.
And you can still open 2.x scores with MuseScore 2,
In reply to Opening of not the problem, … by Jojo-Schmitz
I will try that
In reply to I don't have trouble with… by mcvanrongen
To be clear: you don't need to delete MsueScore 3 to open a file in MuseScore 2. Simply start MuseScore 2 normally (eg, from the program icon) then open the file from there. I guess maybe you've been opening files by double-clicking them in your file browser, and that defaults to MuseScore 3, but you should be able to tell your operating system to change the file associations.
As for the score you posted, can you explain your numbering system? Then we can best advise you on how to proceed. But as mentioned, just answering "no" to the reset question and then disabling autoplace for all system text gives you pretty much what you want very quickly.
In reply to I don't have trouble with… by mcvanrongen
Could this be a question not having to do with the differences of version 2 and 3 but with different choices in the submenu style - measure numbers?
In reply to Could this be a question not… by Wil Weten
I don't exactly know what you mean. I work with coloured numbers for guitar and piano. I always copy them from another score. That saves a lot of time. (Are there better ways to do that? That would be very nice)
If I open the score in musescore 3 the numbers change places and I have to re-arrange them all again.
In reply to I don't exactly know what… by mcvanrongen
I edited this posting several times.
I saw your score and now I understand that with 'numbers' you mean a kind of coloured tab score or something like that for your clients. The problem with these colourcodes above the notes may have something to do with differences in automatic placement of notes between the versions 2 and 3 of Musescore. I think you'd best keep using musescore 2 for the old scores and musescore 3 for the new scores.
I don't know whether this would work for you, but you could export the unintendedly altered scores from musescore 3 to xml and import it back into musescore 2. If you do so, do the 'numbers' appear at the right places again? If so, just save it (automatically in a musescore 2 format). And in future, you just open Musescore 2 and open that file to work on it. So, don't open it from the file itself, but from the Musescore 2 program.
I'm just curious about how you enter these code numbers. Are they a kind of guitar tab system that one of the plugins in Musescore may provide for?
Here you find information on tabs: https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/tablature I just wonder whether this thread with an in my eyes rather practical solution for coloured tabs may be of interest to you: https://musescore.org/en/node/268163
In reply to I saw your score and now I… by Wil Weten
Thank you for all your tips.
I make these coloured numbers for guitar and for piano for disabled people. They can't read or have a bad vision. Also for mentally disabled people very handy. I made them with Textproperties, and made the frame with the colours. I put them in a score and copy the numbers,but it is a lot of work. It would be nice if there woud be an easier method for it. I will read your information and try things out. I''ll show some examples how I work with the numbers. piano nummers 5 goed.mscz nummers gitaar 5.mscz I will certainly try all your tips about musescore 3, but I need time for that, to find out exactly how it works.
In reply to Thank you for all your tips… by mcvanrongen
Once you've create these elements you could place them in a custom workspace (https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/workspaces#create-custom-workspace) into custom palettes (https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/palettes#custom-palettes) for using it for further scores.
In reply to Thank you for all your tips… by mcvanrongen
I guess these are just meant to label the notes accoring to pitch and octave? If so, then I'd suggest simply using chord symbols for this. Then things will space themselves out automatically, you won't need to do any manual adjustment whatsoever. And you can enter them easily bu just typing, hitting Space after each to move to the next note. Bonus: they will transpose automatically too. You would just need to customize the text style using the Inspector. Should be much, much, much easier than what you are currently doing, if I am understanding correctly.
In reply to I guess these are just meant… by Marc Sabatella
Problem is that my students read the colours and not the letters. I have students with Down syndrom for instance. For the piano the numbers are CDEFGB-cdefgab-12345678-d|| e|| f|| g|| a|| b|| c||| d||| enz, all with their own colours. a+ is ais or bes.
For guitar the numbers of the strings are 1 (E) 2 (A) 3 (D) 4 (G) 5 (B) 6 (E) and they are all coloured beige. The frets are numbered: first fret = 1 (red), second fret is 2 (orange), third fret = 3 (yellow) enz enz. It's an easy way for them to read music. On the keyoard I put stickers with the numbers and colours. On the guitar I put stickers with the fret-colours. (they can all count to 6 for the strings). So, I think it's not that easy as putting chordnumbers in. And I think I have to colour each note again and again. I think that's a lot of work too. I just copy them now from the other score. I''ll show some examples of a guitar-sheet and a piano-sheet. But I indeed really hope there's an easier way. I have to look what the inspector can do more.
In reply to Problem is that my students… by mcvanrongen
You are definitely working with a kind of tablature. For Guitar tabs, see the link I already put above. A you use chord symbols, you may as well for some people choose for
Unfortunately, there seems to be no MuseScore plugin for piano tabs yet. Maybe it would be helpful for some of your clients it would be helpful I the notes themselves were automatically coloured. Musescore can do that'. See: (menu, plugins, plugin manager, set colornotes (ok), notes, colornotes. Now you see each note coloured.
You could manually put in the fingerings, see: https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/fingering#add-multiple-fingering
In reply to Problem is that my students… by mcvanrongen
Do you have a document explaining your notation system in detail? Is it your own invention, or one in common use? The better we understand the intent, the better we can assist. It does sound, though, like a plugin would be the simplest option, so if it's something actually in standard use, then perhaps there would be enough interest for someone to develop one.
Other methods I could see working well are creating custom palettes with the basics already set up, all you then need to do is type the text, which in MuseScore 3 is a ton easier since you can hit Alt+Right to move to the next note without ever leaving text edit mode.
In reply to Do you have a document… by Marc Sabatella
Sorry, that I react so late (circumstances). The system that I work with is mine (but copied partly from another system). It's very useable for mentally disabled or autistic people. I shall send you my numbersystems for guitar and piano. I would like very much to know if there could be plug-ins for these numbers. And how can I make these plugins? numbersystems maria.mscz
In reply to Sorry, that I react so late … by mcvanrongen
I'm not familiar with the plugin code, maybe there'S someone other with more knowledge. Maybe it's possible to insert a code for your system text (or resp. staff text) with the attributes similar to the note names plugin, but I'm not sure.
But after a short check) wouldn't it work easier to create as mentioned a custom workspace/palette, select a note and insert the symbols with double click (maybe a limitation is that you've to adjust the position inside the inspector)?
And don't be afraid, it will be work in a similar way with MuseScore 3.x ;-).
In reply to Sorry, that I react so late … by mcvanrongen
Maybe you've found your solution in the mean time. Otherwise, maybe this: https://musescore.org/en/project/fretboard could be interesting. Version 3.3 of MuseScore seems to be immanent.
See for a illuminating picture (and explanation in French): https://musescore.org/en/node/295380
I understand it's not quite what you have been looking for, but still, I guess several of your clients would be able to use this system.
In reply to Maybe you've found your… by Wil Weten
Also, FWIW, quite a few improvements have been made in a number of areas touched upon here. Import of older scores is improved - we do a better job than we did back in March of preserving manual positions of text, etc. And it's easier to make manual adjustments now than it was then, you don't need to disable automatic placement in most cases where you previously would have needed to allow a collision or move from one side of the staff to another. And notes stay selected when you paste text onto them. In fact, for 3.3 - to be released soon - it's considerably better than 2.3.2 in this respect, it's all but impossible to accidentally lose your selection now, and in the cases where you do - even if you do it on purpose by pressing Esc - Alt+Left/Right will get it back.