Multi measure repeat signs
I would like to use multi measure (2 and 4 bar phrases) repeat signs for my drum part, to make it easy to read. The only solution I have seen is a 10 step process eliminating bar lines, making symbols invisible, etc. Is there some quick and easy solution to this?
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There is no direct support, but it's shouldn't take 10 steps either - just add the appropriate symbol from the Symbols palette and move it into position directly over the barline.
In reply to There is no direct support,… by Marc Sabatella
But I have a two measure phrase. I would like to follow that phrase with a 2 measure repeat sign. The pallet only has a 1 measure repeat.
In reply to But I have a two measure… by stever808
Not the "Repeats" palette, the "Symbols" palette (press "Z" to display, as mentioned).
In reply to There is no direct support,… by Marc Sabatella
Here is a link to the 12 step process, which I am trying to avoid:
https://musescore.org/en/node/103336
In reply to Here is a link to the 12… by stever808
Press 'Z' enter 'repeat' in the search box
In reply to Press 'Z' enter 'repeat' in… by Shoichi
I was able to find the symbol, but the whole not rest still stays there and overlaps with the repeat sign.
In reply to I was able to find the… by leeespino12
make it invisible
In reply to Here is a link to the 12… by stever808
Mine is not allowing me to select the "join selected measures."
In reply to Mine is not allowing me to… by jjautrey
You can only do that if you haven't generated parts.
But, joining the measures is not the best way to get the playback anyhow. Much easier to simply add an invisible staff for the playback.
Despite the information I can't get it done. I do get the "repeat two bars" sign and put it in place, but it does not do anything
In reply to Despite the information I… by ErikAmsterdam
An example made with the instructions https://musescore.org/en/node/103336
HTH
In reply to An example made with the… by Shoichi
Thanks. I did see that, but it is so many steps for something that should be drag and drop. I am so surprised that there is not a simple solution available...
In reply to Thanks. I did see that, but… by ErikAmsterdam
There will be in version 4.0.
In reply to There will be in version 4.0. by mike320
That's great news! Any idea when it will be available? I am looking now at https://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/musescore-nightlies/ but I guess that is only for tech experts...
In reply to That's great news! Any idea… by ErikAmsterdam
There is no fixed release date for MuseScore 4 - in discussions I read about maybe this summer, but I suspect it will be later.
Next release will be MuseScore 3.6 without this feature.
The nightly builds are also for users to check new features and report bugs.
In reply to There is no fixed release… by kuwitt
Thanks for the info. Hopefully summer will come fast this year :-)
In reply to Thanks for the info… by ErikAmsterdam
I think summer will come late for MuseScore. I was expecting 3.6 in early December and we're now in mid January. I'd rather wait for it to be done right than to have a release date forced on the program.
In reply to I think summer will come… by mike320
That's absolutely true
In reply to Despite the information I… by ErikAmsterdam
The much simpler solution to me is go ahead and just add the symbol and don't worry about the playback of that staff. If you want to hear the drum part continue, just add another staff for playback purposes. This is also a great approach for dealing with slash notation and more. You can then mark the playback staff invisible in Edit / Instruments.
In reply to The much simpler solution to… by Marc Sabatella
Thanks for the suggestion. I had not thought about this.
You can select the bars you need to repeat, then copy to next bars. Then you go to inspector and define it as “invisible”. Finally, you press Z and select the 2 or 4 bar repetition symbol and place it manually. Then you only need to copy and paste this repeated measure if you need more of this repeated bars.
In reply to You can select the bars you… by vicorilow
Basically as described in How to create a 2-measure repeat sign with playback
In reply to Basically as described in… by Jojo-Schmitz
The way I explain you will only need 4 steps instead of the 12 steps in this link.
In reply to The way I explain you will… by vicorilow
Feel free to add your method to that HowTo
Though the basic functionality is correct, I have found several problems with the implementation of the "repeat measure sign" (%). I am very happy that multi-measure repeats will be supported in 4.0. I also will be using the "12 step method" in some of my 3.6 scores. Though I may be too late for 4.0 (and my design suggestions may be outright rejected):
1. Currently (OS: Windows 10 (10.0), Arch.: x86_64, MuseScore version (64-bit): 3.6.2.548021803, revision: 3224f34), the % is not treated as the notes it is repeating.
1. a. If the % is selected, then shift-left or shift-right cannot extend the selection as is done when a single note is selected (I consider this a minor bug).
1. b. When a partial measure is pasted over the %, I think the implementation should be to first replace the % with the notes being repeated, then overwrite that (same result as if the paste had been to the measure which was being repeated).
1. c. When a measure containing a % is pasted over a measure with notes in multiple voices (e.g., a drumset part), all voices included by the selection filter should be replaced.
1. d. Repitch mode (quite reasonably) skips over a measure with a %. However, if repitch is started on a %, then the % should be expanded to its notes.
2. When doing operations such as adding staff text, the % is equivalent to the whole measure, so selecting the measure should be equivalent to selecting the %. (If this design suggestion is accepted, then the same might be true for the default whole rest and could also be applied whenever a measure only contains a single note or rest.)