Create instruments in your own language
Hi.
I am trying to create several instruments and I have followed the steps of another thread, which refers to manipulating the instruments.xml file.
This does not work for those who do not use English, in my case I use Spanish.
I have seen that Musescore ignores instruments.xml and works with instruments_en.qm in the "Locale" folder,
This file is compressed, how is it solved?
Thanks and best regards.
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The instruments you create in a new instruments.xml file can have their names written in Spanish. Place this file that contains only new instruments on your computer somewhere. Tell MuseScore where this file is by opening Preferences under the edit (or MuseScore) menu. In the Score tab, put the path to it in Instrument list 2, include the name of the file since it can be anything you want it to be.
In reply to The instruments you create… by mike320
I will try this way to see if it works, thanks and greetings to all participants.
So maybe we can have a preference option somewhere (probably in advanced preferences? it's my new good friend) to set the language of instruments, overruling the language of the software's UI? Because even if I use the Chinese or English version of MuseScore most often, I sometimes want to let the instrument names be Italian by default, because this is the tradition of writing classical pieces in classical style.
In reply to So maybe we can have a… by Howard-C
Like
ui/application/languageInstruments
, defaulting to same value asui/application/language
maybe?This request had come up before, see e.g. #114766: Store instrument- and partnames in a language indendent manner
In reply to Like ui/application… by Jojo-Schmitz
Nuh, that's a different issue requesting the names of instruments change depending on the user's language setting. So even if I add instruments under Chinese environment, when I open the score under English environment, I see the instruments' names in English.
In reply to Great! If I manage to fix… by Howard-C
Yes it is different, just somewhat related
But see https://musescore.org/en/node/63821, https://musescore.org/en/node/278951, https://musescore.org/en/node/125916, https://musescore.org/en/node/203021, https://musescore.org/en/node/289381
In reply to Yes it is different, just… by Jojo-Schmitz
I think this one (#295618) is not too hard to fix.
In reply to I think this one (#295618)… by Howard-C
True. Might need a new class, for the list of languages
In reply to True. Might need a new class… by Jojo-Schmitz
I'm disappointed there isn't something like ComboPreference in the advanced properties...
In reply to True. Might need a new class… by Jojo-Schmitz
Just found out, why is showTours in General and Advanced both? It should get removed from advanced properties, as it's already with the other ui/application/startup settings in the General section.
In reply to Just found out, why is… by Howard-C
So it should go from advanced, a very simple fix. It doesn't do any harm there though
In reply to So it should go from… by Jojo-Schmitz
Yes but looks inconsistent. Already did it but the compiler just went wrong...
In reply to Yes but looks inconsistent… by Howard-C
This simple change should do the trick, I think:
Edit, I see, https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/5382 is doing excatly that ;-)
In reply to diff --git a/mscore… by Jojo-Schmitz
Hmmm. Yes, this is exactly what I did ;-)
See https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/5382.
In reply to Hmmm. Yes, this is exactly… by Howard-C
The user can already turn off the tours whenever they want to, making MuseScore do it automatically doesn't make any sense.
When you start MuseScore the first time, it asks if you want advanced or basic work space, it also asks if you want to see the tours and turns them on or off accordingly. If you later change your mind about tours, you can use Edit->Preferences and check or uncheck the tours check box.
In reply to The user can already turn… by mike320
True, but totally unrelated to that setting being also available in the advanced settings,
I guess you're missunderstanding what this is about: it removes a setting from being shown in the Advanced preferences that is shown in the Common prefereces already, so removes a redundancy. It is not about changing that setting in any form or shape.
In reply to True, but totally unrelated… by Jojo-Schmitz
I must be misunderstanding. Never mind and pass a paper bag.
In reply to Great! If I manage to fix… by Howard-C
Changing languages of instruments in a score when you change languages of the program is a rather complicated issue. I work in the English US environment most of the time. Many scores I work with have instruments in Italian, French and German and occasionally other languages. I don't want these instrument names to change because I changed my program language to Spanish (or one of several other languages) to help someone in that forum.
A workaround recommended to people who do not speak a language like Italian who want their instruments in Italian is to change the program language to Italian, create a score, then change back to their native language. Changing the language of the score with the program language would eliminate this.
As for some of the languages being confused in the instruments (discussed elsewhere), I remember there was a bilingual translator for Chinese and Japanese a few months ago who messed things up on the Japanese side and upset several of the Japanese translators because he was translating to Chinese. It sounds like he probably put some Japanese into the Chinese as well. I for one recognize the difference between Japanese and Chinese when I see them, but I don't read either language nor do I ever use MuseScore in either of these languages, so I haven't seen the inconsistencies.
In reply to Changing languages of… by mike320
We can add this StringPreference of languageInstruments, if it's blank then it will follow the general language, if it's not then it keeps that way. Is there a problem?
In reply to We can add this… by Howard-C
I don't see any currently
It seems that with the solution given by Mike it works.
I have created a file with the instruments in a group, I have added the start and end Musescore directives and they appear in "All instruments", the created group.
Now I have to fight with the intervals, because they are transcriptionist instruments, with patience.
In reply to It seems that with the… by goranire
Out of curiosity, which instruments are you adding?
BTW, I think you mean they are transposing instruments.
In reply to Out of curiosity, which… by mike320
I am adding Euskaldunes instruments, txistu F, txistu f # and whistle, they are all wind instruments.
I was referring to transposing instruments, mea culpa.
In reply to I am adding Euskaldunes… by goranire
I am adding Euskaldunes instruments, txistu F, txistu F # and Silbote, they are all wind instruments.
I was referring to transposing instruments, mea culpa.
In reply to I am adding Euskaldunes… by goranire
The txistus are quite interesting instruments.
In reply to The txistus are quite… by mike320
Some consider it as the oldest in the world with 20.000 years, initially built with bone
In reply to Some consider it as the… by goranire
That gives "Early Music" a whole new meaning ;-)
See #295668: Separate language setting of instrument names from the global setting.
Does anyone know why Musescore behaves like this?
I have a score with two Txistus in F # and a Silbote in B.
The actual tone is B.
I put it on, I hit the "concert tone" button and I switch.
It changes to the harmonic tone with 7 flats, Cb.
I want that if I switch the button the tone of B appears to me.
Thank you.
Some images
In reply to Does anyone know why… by goranire
I'm not sure of the particulars, but certain transpositions prefer sharps and others prefer flats when you have keys like Cb/B or Db/C#. Here's a how to to change to the enharmonic key signature: https://musescore.org/en/node/260491
In reply to I'm not sure of the… by mike320
Hi Mike
He followed the steps in the tutorial and it works but he continues to put the wrong key Gb major.
It goes back to the same thing, and it is a huge inconvenience and it makes insurmountable to make scores due to the harmony, as you will see in the image.
I have all the other instruments working correctly but the Txistu in F # with this inconvenience is going to be impossible.
This work that I am doing in collaboration with another person is to freely incorporate these instruments with the soundfont to Musescore and it is necessary that the key be correct, because the purpose is that people transcribe txistu scores and can hear them, if it is already complicated to Being a transpositor instrument, this complicates it even more.
Do you know any solution that works?
Greetings.
In reply to Hi Mike He followed the… by goranire
The link I provided works, you are doing something wrong.
You must enter keys in concert pitch. In the case of sharps (like the key of B) you need to transpose to a key that has sharps, like the key of A, then transpose up one step from A to B. It seems to be easier to go up with sharps and down with flats, but I don't think this is a requirement. I believe the concert pitch to get the key of A on the F# instrument is Eb (I hope I did my math right).
In reply to The link I provided works,… by mike320
I have done the test again and I continue to place Gb major, I am using musescore 2.3.2 but this does not have to do because I have tried with 3 and exactly the same.
Anyway, even if you get results, this is not worth anything, if it does not change automatically it makes no sense to make the instrument, many people who are going to use it have no knowledge to make frills.
In reply to I have done the test again… by goranire
If you want the enharmonic key signature, you enter the key signature into the score.
Select the entire instrument (or section of the instrument's measures)
Transpose to the known key (A which is concert Eb)
Make sure the correct selection is made
transpose up a major second making sure transpose key signature is checked (as it is by default)
The tutorial was created while version 2 was current and works on version 3 as well.
If you want, attach your score and I'll fix it.