Importing MIDI

• Mar 12, 2016 - 10:30

Hi,

Firstly, I apologize asking these basic questions once again - I may have done this before but forgotten plenty what I´ve learned because I rarely need to write scores of my productions. It seems that I´m also a bit impatient to find all answers from the documentation, after 15 minutes I gave up and wrote this.

My usual workflow writing music is:

1. Creation - basic piano arrangement
2. Vocal arrangement (using piano)
3. Other instruments
4. Refining - iteration - final output

I have all the information for the scores in the MIDI format, because I work with a DAW.
Usually I need scores mainly for the vocalist(s), sometimes for some specific instrument /orchestral,
or sometimes for the publishing.

What I need now, scores which include piano staff + 3 vocal parts in the same scoe. I have all this information in the MIDI format. I have imported MIDI to MuseScore (I´m in ver. 2) before, but it seems that I´ve forgotten plenty of it.

Question 1: After I´ve created a new score layout (piano+ 3 voices), I try to import the first vocal part by activating that vocal staff and by command open -> MIDI file import that part to its place.
It does not seem to work, the imported MIDI files does not go to the intended place to the layout base I´ve created but MS opens the MIDI file to a separate window. How to get the imported MIDI to the intended place? Harry


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Once the MIDI imported in a new score, cpoy this score, and paste in the intended place.
Pay attention that the measures lengthes be the same....

In reply to by robert leleu

Robert, Thank you very much, that was it!

Of course I have other questions, too. My next is one I remember discussed earlier,
some progression has happened in the MS2 but it seems that my kind of work flow, where I
import MIDI files, is in some case challenging. Vocals parts and other simple MIDI parts import nicely. but e.g. when I import the piano part (normal right and left hand staff), the MS2 interpretation can be messy. By "messy" I mean
- a lot lot of rest signs (which mathematically correct but just confuse the notation picture)
- division right hand - left hand is wrong ("wrong" in the sense what I´ve ment/played)
- clef signs changes in the middle of staff I´ve not intended
- "inaccuracies" in the note/rest lengths

MS2 includes e.g. quantization and other "adjusting" parameters when importing MIDI, this is supposed to reduce the "messy" result of the MIDI import. This may be trial-and-error process, but can you give some advice when importing MIDI piano parts, how to set the import parameters to optimize the result.

In reply to by Harry_

I never used MIDI import....
However there is a lot of discussions about in the forum.
The usual conclusion is that noting the score from scratch is easier.....which more or less implies that you are noting from an existing score.
In your case I guess ther is none and from what I read in the forum

-rest signs, I have no idea
-division between hands you can just have an educated guess
-clef signs are easy to repair
-inaccuracies come straight from your fingers when you played....that's so boring to play solfegically.... I think there is some way to choose the smallest value when importing. If the actual smallest doesn't occur often, choose the next larger, and repair later...

I hope some other forumers will contribute...

In reply to by robert leleu

Robert, thank you again.
I´m afraid that you are right - it seems that in many cases noting the score from scratch is easier than importing the MIDI file. That´s a pity. Especially for (like me) those who use a lot MIDI instruments when composing.

Even some simple things seem difficult to the MS2: e.g. when piece first bar begins with a rest (I´m not talking about the upbeat), it seems impossible to get MS2 print the rest.

In reply to by Harry_

I'm not sure what you mean about the rest - if the MIDI file contains a rest, then MuseScore should show it. I'm guessing your MIDI file is missing the rest - whatever software you used to create the MIDI file probably started recording with the first note you played.

Depending on how you created that MIDI file, you can definitely get better results by playing with the various parameters in the import window - there are lots of settings there to allow different types of music to render well. But MIDI is quite simple not a good format for representing music notation - it is lacking some very basic things that would be needed. You can use all the MIDI instruments you like, but using the MIDIL *file format* when treying to create music notation is not a bad idea. better to use the MIDI isntruments to enter music into MuseScore directly if you want to use those instruments.

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