Problem with ledger lines being on top of the stems!! Can I fix it?
Hi everybody. Found such a problem. As you may see from the picture, for some reason all the ledger lines lie on top of the stems! This is wrong, as you can see with solid lines everything is fine - all the stems are on top of the lines, but when we have ledger lines, then for some reason those lines are drawn over stems. What to do? The thing is I do a 3d score and this thing is critical.
Please help.
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Seems like the order in which things are dranw is staff lines, stems, ledger lines, note heads, and what is needed here is staff lines, legder lines, spems, noteheads. I don't think this is something you can do anything about, but is a Job for the programmers to fix the stacking order
In reply to Seems like the order in which by Jojo-Schmitz
I just remember that there is an option of making layers in Sibelius, i.e. one can choose what to draw on top of what. Should I open a ticket in feature request, in your opinion?
Thank you guys.
Since there are no rules for this, there is no correct or incorrect about it. The order in which we draw things is often important for various reasons that have nothing to do with how it looks when producing experimental scores. I'd say, if you need a different scheme, try exporting to SVG and doing the coloring in a program that specializes in that sort of thing.
See https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/blob/master/libmscore/element.h#… ff and https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/blob/master/libmscore/element.cp… ff
for the stacking order, which indeed confirms that ledger lines are after stems, but before noteheads.
No idea what possibly negative effects it might have to re-order them.
Edit: I've tried, changing the order doesn't have the desired effect (no effect at all it seems), strange.
In reply to See by Jojo-Schmitz
Really strange... and quite sad to be honest.
In reply to See by Jojo-Schmitz
But thank you for help.
In reply to See by Jojo-Schmitz
It seems Werner fixed this in 8fc970b so you should see this in the latest nightly build
In reply to It seems Werner fixed this in by Jojo-Schmitz
and https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/2778 should, once merged, fix this particular stacking order for 2.0.4, if and when it gets released (or where and when nightly builds for that branch are available)
In reply to and by Jojo-Schmitz
Yes, I have downloaded the latest nightly build and it works great.
Thank you heaps Jojo.
I think the best answer depends on what you do to convert this score to 3D.
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I think Marc's suggestion is on the right track. There are other applications that can manage the display priority after the score has been generated.
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You should be able to File>Export your score to suit that application. From there you can separate your elements into groups, either by moving all elements of a particular color to a "layer"or by grouping all elements of that color and moving the group to the "front" or "back".
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The exact steps and intermediate applications would depend on how you plan to render your score into 3D. I assume you must be planning to do that outside Musescore.
In reply to I think the best answer by jim.weisgram
Yes I use ArtCam, although I don't yet know it good enough.
Thanks for answers.
In reply to Yes I use ArtCam, although I by skfir
I'd be surprised if ArtCAM couldn't select your ledger lines and bring them to the front, or set their display priority, or adjust the z value by a tiny amount, or set their z-order . It can depend on the paradigm the software operates under.
If not perhaps Inkscape (free) or Adobe Illustrator ($$$) or similar could do it.
I'd also expect that ArtCAM will read SVG files directly as Marc suggested.
In reply to I'd be surprised if ArtCAM by jim.weisgram
For sure it all can be done, although Artcam doesn't read SVGs directly. I just need to learn how to use it properly. :)
Oh great! Thank you guys, will be downloading right away!