Double and single staff lines on the same chart

• Nov 26, 2012 - 06:45

I have a chart with double and single staves. I created a chart with two piano parts. One with a treble and bass clef and the other piano with just a treble clef. I typed what I needed to where I needed to and then hid the empty staves. This is fine except it leaves blank spaces where the hidden staves are.

Is there any way around this so I can have a chart without huge blank spaces all over?


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Can you post the score? Normally, hide empty staves does *not* leave holes at all; saving space is the point. Are you really using "hide empty" staves (in style / edit general style), or are you perhaps trying to mark the staves invisible? that's not the same. Or, is it possible you are just seeing the effect of MuseScore spreading out the systems to fill the page? If so, turn up the page fill threshold in style / edit general style / page. Also note hide empty staves doesn't work with ordinary piano parts created as a single instrument with two staves. You need to create the piano part as two seaprate instruments of one staff each.

In reply to by Splops

I think you misunderstood. The reason space is left for certain systems is that you don't have anything on *any* staff in those systems. That's not normal - you'd never want to do that. Think about if - if MuseScore hid that system entirely, how would someone reading the score even know there were measures there being hidden? Hide empty staves assumes that at least one staff in the system is *not* empty, and indeed, it would be incredibly unusual for that to not be the case.

Of course, you probably aren't thinking you have nothing on any staff in those systems, because one of the staves does contain chord symbols. But I guess that's not good enough - you need some actual notes - including slash marks, or maybe a note set invisible - in order for MuseScore to treat it as not empty. MuseScore should probably not hide staves with chord symbols even if they contain no notes. That's the real problem here.

In reply to by Splops

MuseScore#s 'hide empty staves' regards a staf empty if it doesn't have notes. If now an entire system is empty, it hides the entire system, but still eats space on one staff
So adding a note, mark it invisible and set note velocite to User and 0 would be a trick to make it work, see attached

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In reply to by tamila9

The "Hide Empty Staves" option doesn't work to hide staves within a single instrument - only staves of different instruments. You created your score as a single instrument (piano) with two staves. You need to add a second instrument (Create / Instruments) and copy the contents of your bottom staff to it, then delete the original staff. Then Hide Empty Staves will work as expected.

I didn't follow the suggestions made to solve this problem but found a simple workaround due to pressures of time: create a single stave and double stave version. Then use the useful stave spacing tool (vertical I beam) to create 'holes' in the single stave version to paste in the double stave portions. Digital copiers are good at hiding patch marks.

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