make fit

• Sep 25, 2013 - 11:57

Hi,
can someone please tell me how to squeeze the last staff on the first page please?
I found this: http://musescore.org/en/handbook/layout-and-formatting but i am not sure what is best.
(attached are my page settings)
Thank you!

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In reply to by aeLiXihr

Ths is a pretty busy sheet.
One option is to decrease the page upper/lower borders
Another is to decrease the space setting in the same Dialog

Additionally a vertical frame is needed as a spacer for the last line, as the regular spacer doesn't work in 1.3 when using 'hide empty staves'

Since a picture (or score) is worth a thousand words, here is my humble submission for comparison purposes.

Main areas to look at:
Layout / Page Settings -- for margins and scaling
Style / Edit General Style / Page -- for Staff distance, System distance, and Page fill threshold

Also, the two green staff spacers are used to create more space:
The first staff spacer - used to further separate the high notes on the second system with the low notes on the first system. (click on it and delete it to see its effect - you can then undo)
The second staff spacer - used for chord name* clearance with the high notes on the second staff of the second system. (click on it and delete it to see its effect - you can then undo)

I also tweaked (made smaller) the vertical frame for the title and dragged the text up a little, and changed the font of 'impovisatiedeel' to make it smaller.

*if those are chord names, be aware that you could have entered them with 'Ctrl + K', instead of using staff text. See: http://musescore.org/en/handbook/chord-name

Regards...

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In reply to by Jm6stringer

Thank you a lot!
@ Jojo-Schmitz: yep, it is pretty tight.
"decrease the space setting" that would make the staffs smaller, right?

@ Jm6stringer: cool! i checked your settings. You gained the most by scaling the staffs smaller, right?
"*if those are chord names, be aware that you could have entered them with 'Ctrl + K' "
no you could not, give it a try, you will not be able to write a lower case dm. And i have other scores which cannot be "chorded" with that tool. eg. this one: http://musescore.com/user/117143/scores/128248

Attached is how far i got so far; the bottom staff could go lower but i already set the margin to 10mm so i guess i will need that frame you were mentioning...

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In reply to by aeLiXihr

In Style / Edit General Style / Page -- set the 'page fill threshold' to something like 80. (You have it set to 100.)
This tells Musescore that when the page passes 80% filled, it will spread the score out to 'fill the page', up to your lower (10mm) margin.

Setting it to 100 tells Musescore not to fill the page at all, which is why oftentimes people with a high page fill threshold wonder why they have a lot of blank space at the bottom of a page.

Regards...

In reply to by Jm6stringer

thanks yes i know of that function, it is however not what i am after.
I wish to drag down the lowest staff up to the page border leaving the other systems in place.
attached: i set the treshold to 90: the other systems moved down a bit and the spacer is without function now.

What i meant in my previous post is that when i start dragging the spacer the last staff is moved to the next page before the page border is reached...

thank you!

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In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Hi Marc,
yes on that file it is filled out until the border, but if i set the tresshold to 100 and drag down the spacer(which is meaningless here) the staff jumps to the next page already if there are still about 20mm left.

So if i set tresshold to 100%, doubleclick the spacer(turns blue) doubleclick the little blue square, and press [arrow down] once, the staff jumps to the next page...
I hoped to move it all the way down to the page border.
Thanks for the help!

In reply to by aeLiXihr

OK, I see what you mean. And now that you mention it, I am pretty sure I've seen this behavior before: situations where the page fill algorithm is able to fill the page more completely than I can manually. 2.0 is pretty different in how it deals with this - no "page fill" any more, just a min & max system distance. But FWIW, I have no difficulty getting all the way to the bottom margin in 2.0.

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