Moving frames
Hi, I've started trying to insert text and I understand you have to insert a frame to do this. But you can't seem to move it to where you want it to be - double clicking means you can resize, but you can't seem to drag it anywhere. I don't want it where Musescore is putting it!!! How do I move it?
Second question - I'm making a page of scales and some explanations and I want to make the stave as big as possible - I've understood that fine, but how do I reduce the space between staves?
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Select the text (it should all turn blue), then drag it where you want it.
The frame itself stays static.
In reply to Select the text (it should by ChurchOrganist
Thank you, at the point you replied I hadn't even managed to insert any text. I've now got that far, and turned it blue. I can't drag it but I can more or less put it where I want with normal spacebar and enter usage. Thanks again for replying.
In reply to Text by HeatherL
you can drag it once having left editmode
You reduce the space between steads vie Menu → Style → Edit General Style → Page
See http://musescore.org/en/handbook/layout-and-formatting#Style---Edit-Gen…
In reply to You reduce the space between by Jojo-Schmitz
Thank you, I've got that now - or at least I have it to look up! I'll try all that in a minute. Thanks again.
Ok, I need to go back a bit. The book doesn't explain at all how to put in some text. This is what I want to do - under the title, I want to write some explanation as to the following scales.
This is what I've done - firstly I've selected the first system, create-bar-insert vertical frame. So the first thing is that the first stave seems to jump down the page and leave the brace and a grey thing behind. Secondly, I've not done anything with that but inserted another vertical frame. I've right clicked and through searching through forums, think that I now have to add a horizontal frame so I've tried that. Then I've right clicked and clicked 'add text'. Then I've tried to type and nothing happens.
Help, I don't understand any of it and I don't understand why I can't just look in the manual and just follow instructions.
It's a great programme but I just want instructions instead of having to ask!
Thank you.
In reply to Text by HeatherL
You had added 2 horizontal frames before the 1st measure and reduced them to almost nothing, I've fixed that for you
Now right-click into the vertical frame and add frametext
Instead you can also add a horizontal frame to that vertical frame and then frametext inside that horizontal frame
I usually just "missuse" Texter (or Lyricist?) for text in a frame that I want to be left aligned, Composer for right aligned, Title/Subtitle for centred.
In reply to You had added 2 horizontal by Jojo-Schmitz
Some more fixes to the file: getting rid of the initial time sig, setting actual measure duration on the shorter measures and disabling courtesy key sigs
In reply to Some more fixes to the file by Jojo-Schmitz
http://musescore.org/en/node/24475
each reference is purely intentional;-)
In reply to Some more fixes to the file by Jojo-Schmitz
Ah - yes, I've met the disabling features and I will do that.
In reply to You had added 2 horizontal by Jojo-Schmitz
Thank you for this, I'm beginning to see daylight. I really didn't understand much about this bit so thank you for correcting my manuscript. I don't understand why the brace was left behind - in my original, I'd diminished the horizontal frame to nothing but it had left the brace up there and right clicking didn't give me the option of deleting or setting it invisible or putting it where it belonged, next to the stave!
I don't understand your last sentence - do I need to?
Thank you once more, I'm very grateful and now am starting to add text.
In reply to Why the brace? by HeatherL
del
In reply to Why the brace? by HeatherL
you don't Need to, but switching them off seems better than marking them invisible.
These 0 width Frames were actualy not 0 width but had a tine negative size, I guess that cause the solititar brace. And being that small, you can't select them to delete, so I had to do it using a plain text Editor on the mszx file (extracted from the mscz using 7zip)
In reply to you don't Need to, but by Jojo-Schmitz
Could you possibly explain this thing about the brace in case it happens again; what did I do wrong, how to prevent it in the future and how to fix it? I don't know what the plain text editor is but I'm happy to learn - where's this mszx file?
In reply to Brace by HeatherL
mscz is actually a container and a compressed one (WinZIP, 7Zip), the main member being the mscx file inside, which is a plain text file ans as such can get edited with e.g. WordPad, as well opened in MuseScore.
See http://musescore.org/en/handbook/file-format#MuseScore-native-format
I'm not sure how the brace issue happened, but I know that once you sring a Frame to 0 (or near) width/height you can no longer select it, to Change size or delete.
In reply to Text by HeatherL
To answer your basic question, "why can't I just look in the manual and just follow instructions", the answer is simple: this is open source source software, meaning the documentation is only as good as what is contributed by the community of users such as me or you. That isn't meant to be snarky - it's just how it is.
Anyhow, the documentation does explain how to use each feature, but that implies you already know which features you need. So indeed, more tutorial or task-based documentation (as oppsoed to feature-based) documentation would come in handy, to be sure. And some of that does exist, but since everyone wants to do different things, it's pretty hard to anticipate everything a user might want to do and write up a specific tutorial just for that use case. So there's going to be no getting around the fact to occasionally describe in more detail what you want to do, and then people can suggest what features you want to use.
I can provide some guidance up front, though, for what I think you are probably trying to do.
Think of a frame as a way of creating space, period. It's not necessarily a way of placing text; it's just a way of creating space. So you don't move a frame. There is either space before a system or there isn't - the only question is how *much* space there is and whether the space is above the system (vertical frame) or to the left (horizontal). So you insert the frame to say *where* you you want the space, then size it to say how much you want.
Now, totally separate from the question of creating space is the question of placing text. If you happen to want it within that space you just created, you can add the text to the frame, and then position it however you like. Or, if you really want the text attached to the music and not floating freely in the added space, you should probably create it as staff text (or some other specific type of text) attached directly to a note in your score.
So if you literally want the text under the title, you add it to the vertical frame you created, or for that matter to the frame already created for the title. See http://musescore.org/en/node/24475
If you want text above each individual example, better to use staff text - see Text .
In reply to To answer your basic by Marc Sabatella
Thanks Marc, I genuinely didn't realise any of this - it's amazing that people have put such time and effort into this great programme - like anything else that 'happens', people don't realise how much has gone in and I just didn't know. To all of you, you're stars! I also take on board what you say about different people needing different things from the programme.
OK, that explanation about the frame creating a space, that makes a lot of sense, thank you.
So I'm clear. Thanks once again.