Jazzy SMuFL -- files
Jazzy 0.1 test1 SMuFL 0.85 - VERY first nad VERY experimental version of my font:
ONLY:
- segno
- clefs: treble, alto, bass
- numbers: 0-9
test2 - in progress (next week):
- basic noteheads - whole, half, quarter
- basic accidentals - sharp, flat, natural
- basic flags up&down - 8th, 16th, 32nd
- dot
- percussion clef
test3:
- double sharp and double flat
- alla breve and common time
- normal fermats up&down
- tab clef
Greetings,
Gootector
PS
Gonville - maybe today, maybe tomorrow - I must update to SMuFL 0.85... :/ : / :| :P
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Comments
Cool. Here is a screenshot. Not sure what's happening with 12/8.
In reply to Cool. Here is a screenshot. by [DELETED] 5
It's probably kerning is a problem :/ Thanks for info about that.
Nice! I know some people who will be looking forward to this. I might try it myself for some scores too.
In reply to Nice! I know some people who by Marc Sabatella
:D I shall have to come up (with?) glyphs... :D
In reply to :D by Gootector
Especially that it is not too playful, but has a lot of taste instead.
In reply to Like it a lot! by TromboRafi
Where do I extract the zip? I did unzip it in the /fonts folder, but couldn't select it from the GUI.
In reply to Font "installation" by TromboRafi
you won't see it in Style->General...->Score->Musical symbols font without a code cance in MuseScore.
You may see it in the font selection on Text Properties->Font.
In reply to you won't see it in by Jojo-Schmitz
Jazzy is not yet commited in the source code. It needs to be complete enough to be worth tested.
In reply to Jazzy is not yet commited in by [DELETED] 5
Thanks for the info. Exercising patience.
In reply to Thanks for the info. by TromboRafi
How much time to official release of MuseScore 2.0? One month or more?
In reply to How much time to official by Gootector
When it's ready?
Let's see, beta 1 was Aug 26, beta 2 was Dec 22, 4 months between beta's. Beta 2 might be on the short run to release because no "critical" issues exist.
In reply to How much time to official by Gootector
@Gootector there is no ETA set yet on the 2.0 release so for sure it's more than one month away from now.
In reply to @Gootector there is no ETA by Thomas
Ok. Thanks for info. One month... It should be enough for basic glyphs:
I'm a font designer for LilyPond and I just thought I'd see if I can be of any help here. Are all music fonts moving to SMuFL?
In reply to I'm a font designer for by tisimst
All music fonts supported by MuseScore have already been migrated to SMuFL (or in the cvase of Bravura, were SMuFL compatible from the beginning). Any fonts that anyone might proposing adding support for in the future will also need to SMuFL-compatible.
In reply to I'm a font designer for by tisimst
@tisimst: You could transform original OTF Emmentaler font to SMuFL templates - as Bravura and Gootville. It would be great when LilPond will support Emmentaler font in SMuFL format - no problems for developers - only copy&paste fonts to repository.
In reply to @tisimst: You could transform by Gootector
It's an interesting thought, but I don't see Emmentaler going the SMuFL way any time soon. I think they are quite comfortable with the way they are created, especially since there are eight optical variants involved. I don't see any reason to do it myself, especially since it's already *THE* Musescore music font. I trust you knew that...
As for Lilypond supporting SMuFL, as a standard, some effort has gone into that, but there's still some work to be done there to cover the same glyph set as Emmentaler.
Personally, I found it better to make fonts that follow Emmentaler's standard and metrics so they are 100% LilyPond-compatible. I am in the process of making my fonts SMuFL-compliant so they can be enjoyed by a wider audience. I've developed some very handy scripts for automating the most time consuming parts of the conversion process. None of them will be NEARLY as extensive as Bravura (and I don't expect any other to ever come close either), but there will definitely be more than enough glyphs to meet most users' needs.
Can MuseScore use music fonts at run-time or do they need to be compiled with source?
In reply to It's an interesting thought, by tisimst
They need to be compiled in. There have been some previous discussions of why; see for example http://musescore.org/en/node/40856
In reply to I'm a font designer for by tisimst
BTW, one perhaps non-obvious thing about how MuseScore uses SMuFL - we take advantage of the "cutout" metrics for the accidentals, although we don't for any other glyphs. Even for accidentals, they are optional - without them, we simply won't be able to stack accidentals as tightly in chords.
In reply to BTW, one perhaps non-obvious by Marc Sabatella
This is wonderful news! I think the cutouts were a great idea. Those metrics are only applied to accidentals in Bravura, too, so don't feel too bad about that :)
Jazzy font updated to SMuFL 1.12 and Bravura 1.12 templates:
Changes:
- updated to SMuFL 1.12 and Bravura 1.12 templates
- redesigned clefs - a few small fixes
- added tab clef from old and first version of my Gonville edition
- added coda glyph
- added a few dots
- rest of glyphs are from Gootville font
This font doesn't contain JazzyText.otf - this font will be added at end, when Jazzy.otf will be ready to use.
FOR TESTERS ONLY
Greetings,
Gootector
In reply to Jazzy font updated to SMuFL by Gootector
Would you create a PR for it? Should I?
In reply to Would you create a PR for it? by Jojo-Schmitz
You can create PR - if You want, of course. I didn't create PR because I don't know - add or do not add? You know - MuseScore 2.0 is coming and this font is still in development. Good idea is add "experimental" label (at this moment; until to release version with all necessary glyphs).
In reply to You can create PR - if You by Gootector
How anyone would be able to test, without having it integrated?
And this is not just about moving the font at the right spot.
How do you test it?
Anyway, see https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/1740
In reply to How anyone would be able to by Jojo-Schmitz
"How do you test it?":
I think that it should work :D
I always test my fonts in Finale. I've never compiled MuseScore with my fonts :D. It takes too long for me :D If in Finale is displaying correctly... in MuseScore should be similarly :P And it's always like this.
In reply to Jazzy font updated to SMuFL by Gootector
Jazzy SMuFL 1.12/Bravura 1.12 - updated.
I updated font template to the newest compilation of Gootville. See here for more information: http://musescore.org/en/node/41736.
Greetings,
Gootector
In reply to Jazzy SMuFL 1.12/Bravura 1.12 by Gootector
PR updated. Now includes vtests too.
In reply to PR updated. Now includes by Jojo-Schmitz
Ok. Thanks, Jojo-Schmitz for PR.
Greetings,
Gootector
In reply to Ok. Thanks, Jojo-Schmitz for by Gootector
When you're working on this again, please also have a look at #59376: Add gClef8vbParens to Gonville and add that glyph to this font too
In reply to Ok. Thanks, Jojo-Schmitz for by Gootector
When you're working on this again, please also add the glyphs for the new metronome markings, met*, see #28366: Tempo texts are aligned incorrectly, although these are actually needed in the correspondong text font, "Jazzy Text"
In reply to Ok. Thanks, Jojo-Schmitz for by Gootector
When you're working on this again, please also have a look at #81876: Add more clefs and add these glyphs to this font too.
And maybe instead of adding a JazzyText font, how about using MuseJazz instead?
In reply to When you're working on this by Jojo-Schmitz
Maybe Jazzy + JazzyText + MuseJazz letters+digits will be good idea?
In reply to Maybe Jazzy + JazzyText + by Gootector
It might be feasible to 'merge' JazzyText and MuseJazz. I'm not sure we'd need both, or do we?
In reply to It might be feasible to by Jojo-Schmitz
I suggest that good idea is take musical symbols from Jazzy and letters, digits and others text symbols from MuseJazz.
In reply to I suggest that good idea is by Gootector
yep, that's what I mean. And then eventually decide whether it should be called MuseJazz or JazzyText and have only one of them
In reply to yep, that's what I mean. And by Jojo-Schmitz
Ok. I get back to my work. Have a nice day :D
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Jazzy + JazzyText, I prefer. MuseJazzy + MuseJazzyText is also good idea.
In reply to Ok. I get back to my work. by Gootector
Well, currently MuseJazz is MuseJazzText, in effect.
If MuseJaszz becomes merged into JazzyText (which make sense to me, seems more consistent), we'd probably need a way for older score to map MuseJazz to JazzyText
In reply to Ok. Thanks, Jojo-Schmitz for by Gootector
Updated PR, check https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/1740
In reply to Updated PR, check by Jojo-Schmitz
These compilations of Jazzy aren't updated.
For the newest updates (compatible with SMuFL in version 1.18; with current design of glyphs) see here:
https://musescore.org/en/node/89521
or my OneDrive:
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=2CA050E53852F58F!3426&authkey=!AO…
Greetings,
Gootector
In reply to These compilations of Jazzy by Gootector
This is what I took to update my PR
In reply to This is what I took to update by Jojo-Schmitz
Ok. I saw, thanks.
In reply to Ok. I saw, thanks. by Gootector
Here is Reunion typesetted with Jazzy. I changed the width of the ledgerline and stems too. (I'm on a mac, that's why the PDF is so big... see https://musescore.org/en/node/33701)
In reply to Here is Reunion typesetted by [DELETED] 5
Looks good; many "handwritten" music fonts don't work well with music this dense. They are usually designed to give lead sheets a little more weight. So I wonder how it would look with a lead sheet, like, say, this one: https://musescore.com/marcsabatella/scores/47000
In reply to Looks good; many by Marc Sabatella
See attached.
Honestly, I'm not a huge fan of the design and would prefer something thicker but I can understand other people disagree.