Yamaha Grand Piano disappeared from instrument menu
I downloaded the MuseScore 2.0.3 update today, but it turns out that the "Yamaha Grand Piano" option has disappeared from the Instruments menu. I removed the program and downloaded the 2.1 I had previously but the Yamaha Grand is still not there. Could you help me please?
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The name of the sound as shown in View/Mixer is stored inside the SoundFont you're using, so which one is it? Check in View/Synthesizer/Fluid
BTW: The current version of MuseScore is 2.2.1 nowadays, and indeed in the SoundFont this version comes with removed the brand name "Yamaha" from the name of that sound
In reply to The name of the sound is… by Jojo-Schmitz
The View/Synthesizer/Fluid is "MuseScore_General.sf3". Should it be something else?
In reply to The View/Synthesizer/Fluid… by vuorila
No, that is the new default SoundFont for 2.2. And as mentioned there that name has changed.
You wrote about 2.0.3 though, I guess that just was a mistake?
In reply to The View/Synthesizer/Fluid… by vuorila
No it's the default.
only 'Yamaha' has been removed
In reply to No it's the default… by Shoichi
Yes, my previous (and the one I re-installed today) version is 2.2.1, I made a mistake there. I'm confused with these SoundFonts. The point is that the "Grand Piano" sound I have now (in 2.2.1) is vastly inferior to the one I had earlier today in my 2.2.1. So what happened was that I got an announcement in MuseScore for an update and I thought the 2.0.3 was the new stable one, so I downloaded it. When I realised my mistake (by the "Grand Piano" sound) I removed that version and re-installed 2.2.1, but now the uppermost sound is still "Grand Piano" with awful sound instead of the previous "Yamaha Concert Grand".
In reply to Yes, my previous (and the… by vuorila
As said, MuseScore_General.sf2 removed the brand name from that sound
Renamed presets to remove brand names ("Yamaha", "Rhodes").
but it also replaced some sounds
Grand Piano (also Bright Grand, Mellow Grand and Honky-Tonk) -- New, high-quality pianos based on the public domain "Splendid Grand" samples. These samples were originally created by AKAI for the AKAI S5000 sampler...The original close-mic sample set contained 250 MB of samples, but I have been able to program a very expressive instrument using only 94 MB of the samples. I also used the same sample-shifting technique as Roland to create "bright" and "mellow" versions of the pianos that actually have a different tonality to them rather than just using filter variance as the old pianos did. This same technique allowed me to create a honky-tonk piano that sounds somewhat legit, with none of the flanging effect that is typically heard on such presets. This allows all four pianos to sound unique while still sharing the same 94 MB sample set.
See also https://musescore.org/en/node/269869
You can still get the old sound (and name) by loading the old SoundFont, FluidR3mono_GM.sf3, see https://musescore.org/en/handbook/soundfonts-and-sfz-files#list
In reply to As said, MuseScore_General… by Jojo-Schmitz
I'm sorry but I'm still a little confused... So is there any way to get the old sound back? Maybe it's just my ears (I'm a musician) but if you compare the current "Grand Piano" with the previous "Yamaha" I'm sure you can hear the difference? I don't understand why you would remove that sound from your otherwise excellent software and replace with an inferior one. I want to emphasize that otherwise I love your program, it's hard to believe you can get such a wonderful program for free!
In reply to I'm sorry but I'm still a… by vuorila
As I wrote (maybe in a later edit you missed), it is indeed also a different sound and you can get the old sound back by loading the old soundfont.
But also you can try one of the other Piano sounds in the default soundfont
In reply to Yes, my previous (and the… by vuorila
You can always reinstall the previous soundfont as well
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/soundfonts-and-sfz-files
In reply to You can always reinstall the… by Shoichi
I'm sorry to such a nuisance, please be patient with me. I downloaded the FluidR3Mono GM.sf3 soundfont but the Grand Piano there is still not the same as earlier today. Could it be that there is something wrong with my computer? I just don't understand. I even removed MS2.1 and re-installed it once again, checked that the soundfont was the one above, but nothing seems to work.
In reply to I'm sorry to such a nuisance… by vuorila
Is it possible that the soundfont I had earlier was not the default one for MS2.1?
In reply to Is it possible that the… by vuorila
Possible, but unlikely, as it seems the first time you hear about the existence of soundfonts?
In reply to Possible, but unlikely, as… by Jojo-Schmitz
I vaguely remember having heard something about them when I first installed MS last summer, but I've forgotten what it was. This is the first time I'm using notation software so I don't know very much about them. But I've been very happy with MS thus far. Could you offer any suggestions as to what I should try next?
In reply to I vaguely remember having… by vuorila
You mean other than getting used to the new sound? See below...
In reply to I'm sorry to such a nuisance… by vuorila
Add it to the synthesizer, remove the other, then it should sound the same as ever before
If you only add it and leave in 2nd place, you'd need to scroll down quite a bit in the mixer pulldown menut to see the Yamaha Grand Piano
In reply to Add it to the synthesizer,… by Jojo-Schmitz
I did this but the Yamaha is not in the pull-down menu, and the instrument on top (which used to be Yamaha) is not the same sound as previously?
In reply to I did this but the Yamaha is… by vuorila
@Jojo, is it perhaps the instruments.xml file that contains the new name?
In reply to @Jojo, is it perhaps the… by Shoichi
Clarification: it doesn't matter what the name of the instrument is, I'd just like to get the sound back. Also I'm not sure but I think the other instruments sound worse that before. What could explain this?
In reply to @Jojo, is it perhaps the… by Shoichi
@Shoichi: no, that only contains numbers
In reply to I did this but the Yamaha is… by vuorila
Hmm, apparently even there the "Yamaha" had been removed?
Ah, the link in the manual was wrong, it did not lead to the 2.1 soundfont at all. Corrected now, try to re-download
In reply to Hmm, apparently even there… by Jojo-Schmitz
Hallelujah, it's back! Many thanks for your patience.
In reply to Hallelujah, it's back! Many… by vuorila
Thanks for your perseverance, that was a rather stupid mistake in the handbook