Position of expression text
In measure 43, the "acc." is placed to low. I'm using default position.
The "Faster" tempo text under letter "C" claims to be "FreeSerif" but it's clearly a San Serif font.
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The tempo text as a whole is set to FreeSerif as per the Inspector, but the individual characters within it are set to MS Shell Dlg 2 as per the text toolbar. This can happen due to a glitch in editing the text, but it's fixed by hitting the Remove Custom Formatting button in the Inspector.
As for the "acc" text, if you want it higher, just change it with the Inspector, and optionally change the default style setting by pressing the Set as Style button. The default works well for most scores, but since you deliberately (?) decrease the staff distance in yours, it's not great here, so if you want to keep that tight staff spacing, you should indeed change the default style settings not just for expression text but probably for dynamics and other markings below the staff.
In reply to The tempo text as a whole is… by Marc Sabatella
"The tempo text as a whole is set to FreeSerif as per the Inspector, but the individual characters within it are set to MS Shell Dlg 2 as per the text toolbar. This can happen due to a glitch in editing the text, but it's fixed by hitting the Remove Custom Formatting button in the Inspector."
This is surely one of the most annoying changes introduced in MS 3.0 - particularly when setting tempo instructions. In MS 2.3.2 I could introduce a new tempo from the Tempo palette, adjust the text, and then copy that content into a Stave text on a different stave. This repetition of the tempo instruction often occurs in music for voice and piano, or for sections of a full orchestra score. I don't like to introduce multiple Tempo elements on the same beat, hence my use of Stave text.
But in MuseScore 3, this technique leads to a notehead and stem in the Stave text which is frankly ugly - it doesn't match the notehead and stem in the Tempo element even when the text is set to style Tempo. Do others agree that this is a bug?
In reply to "The tempo text as a whole… by DanielR
The bug with the text formatting sometimes getting messed up and characters appearing in the wrong font entirely as in your previous example is fixed for the next update. But I'm not quite sure what you mean here. There are several different note symbols available per font, several different notation fonts available. So depending on which combination you choose, you can get different looks for your notes. The note in the standard tempo markings is not necessarily using the same font as the rest of the characters, depending on your settings, so copy and paste won't necessarily work as expected if you merely copy characters. Better to copy the full element.
In reply to The bug with the text… by Marc Sabatella
I haven't copied anything, but by now I don't remember what I have done. Switched fonts a couple of times to get the formatting identical. I'll just wait for the next release. Thanks.
In reply to The bug with the text… by Marc Sabatella
@Marc Sabatella
I think your reply was meant for @DanielR rather than @Victotronix?
If so, I don't understand what you mean by "Better to copy the full element". As explained, I prefer not to use a second Tempo element on the same beat - but if that's the only way to do it in 3.0.2 then perhaps I don't have a choice?
In reply to @Marc Sabatella I think your… by DanielR
I'm not sure why you are wanting two different tempo markings on the same beat - the standard would be to have just one on the top staff - but if you do, I also don't understand why you wouldn't want to use an actual tempo text. Still, anyhow, as I said, if you copy the text, you will need to reproduce any fnt/format changes, since they don't copy. This isn't different than 2.3.2 - if a text element changed font mid-text, that isn't copied if you paste into another text element. And that's what's going on here - the note symbol comes from another font than the rest of the text. I guess maybe in 2.3.2 the default note symbol did come from the same font. Anyhow, as I said, you have a choice of different notes symbols, so if you prefer them all from the same font, just enter it that way to begin with.
In reply to I'm not sure why you are… by Marc Sabatella
"This isn't different than 2.3.2"
Sorry, but I disagree. My submitted screenshot and example scores clearly show that it is handled differently in 3.0.2 (non-matching fonts) than how it was handled in 2.3.2 (fonts match when text is copied from Tempo to Stave text).
If this is the new MS 3 world, I'll accept that I have to learn new habits. But for me it would add steps to a procedure which is frequently needed, because I am trying to reflect the look of scores from major publishers.
In reply to "This isn't different than 2… by DanielR
What I am saying is that the behavior is the same - font changes are not copied. You could test this yourself - make a font change in the middle of a text (like marking one letter of a word bold) and then copy and paste that text. You'll see the formatting is not copied, same as 3.0. What is different is that apparently the default tempo text didn't use a font change in 2.3.2 - or the font change was better hidden from the user - whereas in 3.0, there is an explicit font change. But no matter, just create your own tempo marking that doesn't involve a font change (eg, use the "Remove Custom Formatting" button), and then you can copy and paste it as before if for some reason you really want to make multiple tempo markings in the same location but have some of them not be tempo markings (still not clear on why you are doing either of things, understanding that might help in terms of suggesting alternate solutions).