using styles or templates

geijntje

• Dec 29, 2020 - 09:50

hello,

How can I import files into a template? Or how can I change an existing file to the specifics of a template?

thank you!
Annemiek

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kuwitt

• Dec 29, 2020 - 09:57

See: https://musescore.org/en/handbook/layout-and-formatting#save-and-load-s….

Jojo-Schmitz

• Dec 29, 2020 - 09:57

A template is nothing but a normal score, save into the templates folder

geijntje

• Dec 29, 2020 - 10:09

When I load a Style in an existing file, it does not take over all the specific lay-out details.
Is this how I do it:
1) open an existing file
2) in Preferences under Score/Style/ search for my .mms
3) load the Style

I am new to MuseScore after working with LogicPro... so I have to understand the basics: in Logic I could OR import specifics from other files into a file, OR import an .MXL-file into a template

thank you!
Annemiek

mirabilos

• Oct 27, 2022 - 20:58

What is all taken from the template and what isn’t?

Marc Sabatella

• Oct 28, 2022 - 02:23

I don't know what might have changed for MsueScore 4, but basically, the instrument list, the style settings, and the title frame setup.

mirabilos

• Oct 28, 2022 - 02:50

(I’ll stick to 3 for quite a while. 4 seems to be forcing the use of binary-only and/or download-only content and phone-home software.)

Thanks! I guessed the former two… the title frame setup how specifically? /usr/share/mscore3-3.2/templates/02-Choral/03-SATB_+_Piano.mscx only has a VBox with a dummy text of style Title in it, the others are filled in from the input mask normally.

Marc Sabatella

• Oct 28, 2022 - 03:50

No,. there is no binary-only content forced in MuseScore 4 - that's only if you opt to use Muse Sounds. The basic application remains completely open source.

Regarding the title frame - if you create a title frame of a particular size in a template, that size gets honored in scores created from it. So between that and custom styles settings for the positions of title/subtitle/composer/etc, plus the fact that header & footer are style settings and thus also used, the template can produce a nice consistent look to your "front matter".

mirabilos

• Oct 28, 2022 - 04:02

Ah, makes sense. Thanks!

AndreasKågedal

• Oct 28, 2022 - 08:43

I never fully understood how this relates to the parts of a score.

Are the styles of the separate parts of a template used for the styles of the parts of a score based on the template? Or are the styles of the "full score" of the template used for the parts of a score based on the template?

Marc Sabatella

• Oct 28, 2022 - 14:30

If the template actually contains pre-generated parts, I think its styles will be used. Feel free to test by creating such a template and reporting back! The pre-defined templates don't included pre-generated parts as it is not really recommended.

In the usual case, the new score won't have parts yet, and at the moment of part creation, the style settings are copied from score to parts, with a few exceptions:

page settings from the score are ignored; the parts will have default page & staff size
concert pitch is turned off even if it was on in the score
multimeasures rests are turned on
if you've defined a style for parts in Edit / Preferences / Score, that is used instead

There might be one or two other settings that default to something different than the score based on some of the relatively new features added in 3.5, 3.6, or 4.0.

AndreasKågedal

• Oct 30, 2022 - 11:28

I actually did try. It did not work. The "Edit/Preferences/Score/Style for parts" is probably the best way. But it assumes you are only using one type of style. If you write big band scores and scores for baroque recorder quartets you probably will not want to use the same style for the parts.

What I did to test if styles set in parts are preserved in templates:

create a new score based on the Big Band template
add some notes to the alto sax 1 instrument
generate all parts
add some staff text to the alto sax 1 part and change the size to 20 and press the "set as style" button.
add another staff text to verify that it appears as 20pt size. Works fine.
1. As a side note, checking back in the main score, where the style size for staff text is 10pt, surprisingly, the newly added text gets size 20pt also there. Same thing happens if new staff text is added to alto sax 1 in the main score, it gets size 10pt in both the part and score. I am not convinced this is the desired behavior. But this is a separate issue and not the one I was intending to test.
Saving the new score as a new template in the Templates folder (with the parts still generated).
Create a new score based on the new template. All the parts appear from the start
go to the alto sax 1 part and add some staff text. It is added with size 10pt (not 20 as is the style in the template file, see step 4 above)

Marc Sabatella

• Oct 30, 2022 - 13:40

If this is still that way in MU4, best to report it on GitHub. Everything about parts is handled differently in MU4, so it could well be different, might not even be possible to differentiate a template containing parts from one that doesn't.

mirabilos

• Oct 30, 2022 - 19:24

After part generation, I tend to visit each part tab and use Format → Load style on each, because mu͒3 resets some things (like system dividers) automatically for parts. I use the left-side “quick places” bar to easily navigate to the directory I keep my .mss files in.

Marc Sabatella

• Oct 30, 2022 - 19:38

Oh yeah, system dividers, that's one of those relatively recent things I had forgotten about. Indeed, for most parts, they don't make sense, but they could if your "part" is really several parts combined.

BTW, though - no need to visit each part one by one to force a given style to apply to them all. Load the style for one, then go to Format / Style and click the "Apply to all Parts" button.