Venezuelan Cuatro and Maracas. Timple Canario and Brasilian cavaquinho
Hello.
I am a venezuela musician and I would like to see the venezuelan cuatro in the instrument list. I have been trying to use ukulele instead but its notes range it is not the same. Also the feature for the arpegios it is not totally suitable for instruments like cuatro that also have something like "hits", anyway I understand the difficulties to add a new instrument like and its features could bring.
Usually venezuelan joropo music also use maracas. I can´t find maracas.
Other regional instrument that I would like to see there if this is possible. Are Brasilian Cavaquinho and Timple Canario. This instruments also have the arpegios and "hits" very unusual.
Thank you
Alejandro
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Maracas are available already, just use the search filed in the Add Instruments dialog
You can create a score using Ukelele, and modify its range and string data, via Instruments properties, then store and use it as a template
In reply to Maracas are available by Jojo-Schmitz
To follow, three templates for wished instruments with "re-entrant" tunings.
I had not yet taken the time to do it, but I personally will use them, since I have and I play (well, moderately... when I have the time...) these cuatro and cavaquinho. But no timple :( !
As you know, there may be alternative tunings (but the followings are the most standard/common)
- So, for the cuatro - bass to treble: : A3 / D4 / F#4 / B3 (as mine ...)
Cuatro Template.mscz
A sample (scale): sample cuatro.mscz
-For the cavaquinho: D3 / G3 / B3 / D4 (mine is E4 for the top string, as guitar, so more easy to remind!)
Cavaquinho Template.mscz
- For timple: G4 / C5 / E4 / A4 / D5
Timple template.mscz
I chose to display: Tab staff + linked standard staff.
Of course, you can change this (staffs display and alternative tunings) to your liking.
In reply to To follow, three templates by cadiz1
Thank you very much !!!. I willl these features.
Alejandro Reyna
In reply to To follow, three templates by cadiz1
Anyway still something after checking your cuatro sample, how I do the arpegios "hits" that are specifically for this instrument?.
Fos example, golpe de vals, joropo, merenge, etc?
Can you help me ?
Thank you
In reply to Anyway still something after by alejreyna
Not sure I understand everything with "hits" (?)
But, if I guess well, you can indicate the golpes and arpeggios included in the Arpeggios & glissandi palette (arrows up / down, wavy lines etc.)
With a little personal research you can easily find sites or videos on YT to help. I have found this one for example: http://micuatro.com/acordes/ritmos/
Good luck! :)
In reply to Not sure I understand by cadiz1
All right, you understood what I meant with "hits" = "golpes" included in the "ritmos". But that is exactly the problem, there are not enough features in the "Arpeggios & glissandi" palette to fullfill the task, because if you see the webpage that you posted there are some rhythm movements that have some "points" in the up and down movements. That represent a dry sound made by a "slight arpegio hit" that is essential in the cuatro when playing a chord.
I that know that maybe I am asking for too much for an specific instrument, but as this is a "new features request forum" I guessed it could be nice to make this observation thought these "dry hits" are essential in playings cuatro chords.
Saludos
In reply to All right, you understood by alejreyna
Maybe, you have to look for those special signs into the Master Palette (not the Left panel, the upper "See" Menu, instead).
Whatever, I'm not sure if you will get the exact sounds you want to hear. Remember that the PCs are the foolish machine invented and MuseScore is a software which is trying to be as close as it can to the human way, but I really doubt these machines will be able to get it. Human mistakes and moods are the things that make music... Music!!!
Greetings & Blessings from Chile!!!!!!!
Quizás, debes buscar en la Paleta Maestra (no en el panel izquierdo, sino arriba, en el menu "Ver").
Como sea, no estoy seguro de que puedas obtener el sonido exacto que tú deseas. Recuerda que los computadores son las máquinas más estúpidas que se han inventado y que MuseScore es sólo un programa que trata de acercarse lo más posible a la interpretación human, pero dudo mucho que estas maquinitas logren tocar como un humano. Los errores y humores humanos son lo que hace que la música sea... Música!!!
Saludos y Bendiciones desde Chile!!!!!!!
In reply to Maybe, you have to look for by jotape1960
Your blessing have been received with joyfull !!
What happens is when playing a cuatro's rhythm in chord, a "dry" sound that is achieved, blocking lightly the strings. This sound it is not a mistake, furthermore it correpond to a correct and natural execution of that instrument, like you can see in this video where th rhythm of gaita zuliana is shown:
ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgmLbgeTnds
This feature does not exist in the arpeggios menu, then I am suggesting its inclusion in the software thought this is suggestion forum. If not I could anyway make the music sheet and print it, but maybe I will not be able to listen its execution correctly, as the software allows with other kind of music.
Thank you very much and blessing for you too !!
In reply to Maybe, you have to look for by jotape1960
Bendiciones para usted también !!!
Respondí en inglés y saludo !!
In reply to Not sure I understand by cadiz1
See this video and you will have more example of the dry sound and special arpeggios of the cuatro that I am talking about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFV8_z0gJ4
In reply to See this video and you will by alejreyna
Well, there are hundreds of plucked traditionnal instruments in the world! And countless rhythmic particularities in each region. For the joropo eg: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joropo
I had never seen this way to input the golpes (with arrows and dots) in the previous mentioned site. Probably on another site, you will find something else ...
So, it is likely that you must adopt your way for inputting these signs, or inspired by a somewhat more common way. Generally, to indicate these dry sounds, one can use "ghost notes" (in any case, I would use personally). Use the shortcut Shift + X for that (like the second measure on the following image)
A result example:
![ghost.jpg]( "ghost.jpg")
In reply to Well, there are hundreds of by cadiz1
As I responded to my friend from Chile
What happens is when playing a cuatro's rhythm in chord, a "dry" sound that is achieved, blocking lightly the strings. This sound it is not a mistake, furthermore it correpond to a correct and natural execution of that instrument, like you can see in this video where th rhythm of gaita zuliana is shown:
ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgmLbgeTnds
This feature does not exist in the arpeggios menu, then I am suggesting its inclusion in the software thought this is suggestion forum. If not I could anyway make the music sheet and print it, but maybe I will not be able to listen its execution correctly, as the software allows with other kind of music.
Best Regards
In reply to As I responded to my friend by alejreyna
Hi, bro!!!
I think it is impossible to the software to reproduce this kind of "rhythmic expression" because it is a "hit" we perform with the hand, not a normal musical note.
The only one way to get it, is through a soundfont file which has the sound of that particular "hit" (I don't know where it is).
A lot of years ago, I worked with a local chilean folklore music group and I remember that they used the typical "Ø" character to put on the score where this "hit" should be played (we called it: "closed hand hit").
BTW: This "hit" is a very important part of the rhythmic pattern of our national dance: the "Chilean Cueca".
Greetings & Bleesings from Chile!!!!!!!
Juan
In reply to See this video and you will by alejreyna
This video DOES exist when I go another time.
Wonderful thread.