Allow correct playback of cross-staff/voice arpeggios
Reported version
3.0
Priority
P2 - Medium
Type
Functional
Frequency
Many
Severity
S5 - Suggestion
Status
active
Regression
No
Workaround
No
Project
There is no correct playback in cross-staff and cross-voice arpeggio. I mean, you can drag the arpeggio as much as you want, but MuseScore won't play it back. Please, fix it as soon as possible.
Comments
Cross Staff arpeggio does work, if having used cross staff notation in the first place, see https://musescore.org/en/handbook/cross-staff-beaming-0
But this is cross-staff beaming. How can that work with the arpeggio?
cross staff notation is the same thing (just with and without beams)
Oh, hold on, you're talking about arpeggios, I was talking about glissandos, sorry
I can't see how. Could you please explain me?
Explain what? I simply misread arpeggio to mean glissando...
and you can't have parts of a chord in a different staff (just found that out)
Exactly. I can't have parts of a chord in a different staff, so how am I supposed to do that?
simple: you are not ;-)
I would appreciate it if MuseScore could playback cross-staff arpeggio, in a future version, so that's why I have created this issue. Thanks for your time, anyway.
came up again in https://musescore.org/en/node/106756
and again in https://musescore.org/en/node/107621
I second the request. I have some sheet-music that uses an arpeggio of a "chord" which is of two-voices, each note of different duration, yet there is an arpeggio including both notes. It would be nice to have that feature fully implemented in playback as well as graphically (graphically works fine already with manual spanning).
Is there any additional plugin that would allow me to correct playback in cross-staff and cross-voice arpeggio?
As far as I know, no. You can do so manually with the piano roll editor, though.
A plugin can't do what the core program can't do either.
But for playback workarounds, you could add all notes to the chord in one staff/voice, make them hidden, adjust the visual span of the arpeggio and untick play for the visible notes in the other staff/voice.
Once more in https://musescore.org/en/node/137291
and once more in https://musescore.org/en/comment/834018
In reply to #14 by jeetee
That's not feasible: The notes' heads can be made invisible, but the stems connecting the notes in a chord can only be made invisible in full, or they need to be adjusted for every chord.
What I did was create another grand staff, copied the notes from the old grand staff, muted all notes on the old grand staff, imploded all notes on the new grand staff, deleted the second staff on the new grand staff, and finally created a part without the new grand/halved staff (so to have a full part for playing and a part for printing). That's not ideal, though, as I also had to correct the chords when they appeared on two voices almost at the end of the composition.
Came up again: https://musescore.org/en/node/277428#comment-857679
Came up again in https://musescore.org/de/node/280143
Relates to #285233: [EPIC] Cross-staff notation issues
Related to #288373: [EPIC] Arpeggio issues
In reply to #12 by bumble02_omit@…
Use another voice.
Came up again in https://musescore.org/en/node/296888
Came up again in https://musescore.org/en/node/297466.
In reply to #14 by jeetee
Here we are, four years later. I just tried something like this, replicating all the notes in a new voice on one staff, with an arpeggio, and then hid the new notes, beam, arpeggio and an accidental (the accidental was on a note that was in the other staff, so appeared a second time.) This was in a piano score.
I then exported to a .musicxml file and opened it in Sibelius First, just to see what would happen. The hidden elements were visible, but greyed out. I removed these, but don't know enough about Sibelius to really get it right. I wound up with an arpeggio in just one staff.
In reply to Here we are, four years… by stephencbryant
Just read through 4 years of brainstorming and attempts at workarounds just to still see that musescore hasn't been updated properly.....great
In reply to Just read through 4 years of… by Danny_boii02
The team has a lot of things to do that have higher priority than this.
In reply to The team has a lot of things… by Howard-C
And yet another 4 years later there is still no such thing
this issue tracker here has been discontinued, so better re-request on GitHub
We really need this. What if both hands are playing separate chords, but the left hand is supposed to play it as an arpeggio and the right hand should do the same the second the left hand plays the arpeggio.
Just seem my answer above yours