Measure repeat in part only (not in score)
The title should be self-explanatory, but let's detail a bit.
I have a composition where I'd like to show the full measures for all instruments on the score without measure repeats, but then I want the percussion parts to use measure repeats to save space and to make it easier to read for a musician. However, because of the way linked parts work, MuseScore won't let me change that in the part without changing it in the score too.
Does that go against standard engraving rules? If not, is there a way MuseScore can do this that I am not aware of? Otherwise, would it make sense to consider such a feature?
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At time it's only possible to edit a part without affecting the score, if you select the tab of this part and save it with file->save as...
Every score I've seen for which parts use measure repeats, the score shows them as well. Is there a reason you want them to not agree? As a conductor, I hate it when my score does not reflect what people are seeing in their parts.
The reason why I wanted the measure repeats to show only on the parts was to maintain consistency in the score. I didn't want measure repeats to be used only in certain staves of the score if I wasn't going to use them in all parts, but then I don't want the other parts to use measure repeats because it doesn't seem natural to use them. I'd rather save the measure repeats for the percussion staves, in particular.
But then I suppose it makes sense to have measure repeats in the percussion staves in the score as well, so I'll try that. Thanks for the input.
I've been googling for this feature and I've stumbled upon this thread. It would be really nice to have that. It's rarely seen in orchestra parts, but in a band context when there is no conductor and people just want to have some reference, it would be cool. Now I simply make a copy and delete most of the score to extract eg. bass part, so it's pretty equivalent to do "file->save as..."
In reply to I've been googling for this… by gajatko
I often use that, to have ,for a part , one or severals repeats, that I can't use for the score, because others instruments, don't have the same notes . So , when my work is ended, I save the score, I edit all the parts, and I save each part , out of the score. After , I load this part only , and I do what I want , if I want a repeat, I create it (don't forget to change the measure number)
In reply to I often use that, to have … by Raymond Wicquart
Similar to multimeasure rests
In reply to Similar to multimeasure rests by Jojo-Schmitz
In what cases they aren't created? I have just checked and multimeasure rests do appear in parts. If they didn't it would count as a bug for me, because there is no way to insert them manually.
But, multimeasure rests are pain, especially the fact that you can't decide where to put them. I consider them as just another notation symbol, like other concepts which aren't done automatically (which is good):
In reply to I don't think it's true, I… by gajatko
Multimeasure rests work exactly as you'd want multimeasure repeats to work (and get toggled using M)
You can decide where to put them, you can tell a measure to interrupt a multi measure rest, in case it isn't for other reasons already
In reply to Multimeasure rests work… by Jojo-Schmitz
"you can tell a measure to interrupt a multi measure rest"
Oh, I didn't know that, thanks. But I cannot apply this to multiple measures at once. To be fair, the option is very well hidden (should go to the inspector, as Tarantul has suggested). But still, it's an opt-out rather an opt-in. Although one may argue that the former is better, but I think the latter is more intuitive for a new user. I'm not confident about this, though.
In reply to "you can tell a measure to… by gajatko
you need to disable mmrests first, then change the measure properties to interrupt, then enable mmrests again
In reply to you need to disable mmrestes… by Jojo-Schmitz
That's exactly what I have meant - it's opt-out. (Maybe my English is too bad). We have drifted away from adding repeats to parts without loosing synchronization with the full score, but at least I've learnt something.
In reply to "you can tell a measure to… by gajatko
You should virtually never need to explicitly break mmrests. MuseScore does this automatically at all the standard places - repeats, double bars, rehearsal marks, changes of key, tempo, or time signature, etc. and of co it se, they are enabled automatically in parts as well, while being off in the score by default - all as it should be.
So mmrests are in most cases complety automatic, requiring no user intervention of any kind whatsoever.