Use a different stave/instrument setup on 2nd page
Is it possible to set up page 2 of a score with a different choice of staves and instruments to page 1? It's not for an actual music score but for some TAB/Notation reference documentation. I've looked at parts in the manual but these don't seem to be quite the answer.
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You would have more success using some sort of mix of instrument changes and Hide Empty Staves. You need to evaluate your needs and what is the easiest way to do what you need. Keep in mind that you don't normally want to hide empty staves until the notes are entered.
Yes, it is. Set up all instruments at first and use the option "Hide empty staves" under Format/Style/Score.
In reply to Yes, it is. Set up all… by Pentatonus
If it is going to end up as a 2 page .pdf you might create each page as a separate score, export them as pdf and use something like pdfbinder to make them into a single document.
It's going to stay in MS and be uploaded so I can access easily from any device. I'll try the hide stave option first and resort to PDF if necessary. I've already finished page 1 so is it too late to use the hide staves solution?
In reply to It's going to stay in MS and… by yonah_ag
Not too late. Add the instruments and enter the notes, then hide empty staves. Don't worry about a bad display until after you get to the hide empty staves step.
FWIW, I use the hide empty staves facility for this sort of thing all the time in creating educational materials where different parts of the same score might need totally different instrumentation. Depending on the specifics, I might use the style option to do this globally, or I might set any one particular staff to always hide when empty, in Staff/Part Properties.
In reply to FWIW, I use the hide empty… by Marc Sabatella
I'm looking forward to trying it out. Now, if only MS had an option for making more free time ...
In reply to I'm looking forward to… by yonah_ag
Here, have some rest:
![rest.png]( "rest.png")
In reply to Here, have some rest: … by jeetee
:-)
I failed.
As soon as I add the first extra stave all the staves jump to page 2, leaving just the image on page 1. I've tried putting in a page break and section space but I can't get this new stave onto page 2.
Original:
![original.png]( "original.png")
Add stave:
![addstave.png]( "addstave.png")
Tab Staff 2.mscz
Tab Staff 2 Add.mscz
In reply to I failed. As soon as I add… by yonah_ag
I guess you have too many staves on the page (+image). Try to reduce the size of the staves to fit them all on one page.(Page-settings)
Here is the corrected file:
Tab Staff 2 Add2.mscz
In reply to I guess you have too many… by Pentatonus
But the last stave should be on the page 2. Then there is plenty of room for the other 8 and the image on page 1.
In reply to But the last stave should be… by yonah_ag
Each instrument has however many staves assigned to it. Guitar usually has 1 (or 2 with standard and tablature) piano usually has 2 and so forth. All of the instruments make a system (if it's 1 or more) and systems are kept in tact at all times by MuseScore. Your guitar neck picture is independent of the system so it did not have to stay with the system. Your best bet is probably to open Format->Page settings and reduce the scaling. There's a preview in that window so you'll know when you have the right scaling.
In reply to Each instrument has however… by mike320
Ah, now I understand what's going on. Stave 9 needs to be the first of 6 TAB staves which belong on page 2. Page 1 is already complete and cannot have any more staves. I'll have a rethink.
In reply to Ah, now I understand what's… by yonah_ag
If you need staff 9 where it is, then add it. Put a page break where page 1 ends (don't worry about the layout yet) and add notes only to the staves you need on page 2. When you're done with page 2 put a page break on the last measure there. BTW, if page 2 is a new song that needs new instrument names, put a section break in the last measure of page 1 also. If the staves become too many for the page there are a couple of options on how to deal with that when the time comes.
Well, I've got it working by using a combination of the knowledge shared in this thread. In the end I left page 1 as it was and then added 13 bars to the score, (open string + 12 frets). This made a complete system on page 2 and allowed me to use the "always hide empty staves" on just the notation staves.
Now just add another 2 x 13 bars and use line breaks every 13 to match the guitar neck image.
Thanks for the help. Probably not the primary use for hidden staves but very useful.
In reply to Well, I've got it working by… by yonah_ag
What you're doing isn't something I've seen discussed before but the idea is exactly what Hide Empty staves is for. If you want, you can remove the check from the option under Hide Empty staves that starts "Do not hide..." and the empty staves on p1 will disappear.
In reply to What you're doing isn't… by mike320
P1 has no empty staves but I understand what you mean. It's a handy feature.
Took a while but got there in the end and learned some more about MS in the process.
https://musescore.com/user/28842914/scores/6361202