Slow To Launch
I am new to MuseScore, just a few days. Does the program take about 30 to 60 seconds to load?
I am using a Dell G7 7588 laptop:
- Intel Core I7-8750H
- GeForce GTX 1060 Max-Q & 6GB RAM
- 16GB of operating RAM
- 1TB Samsung EVO 970 M.2 nVME boot drive & 500GB SATA3 SSD secondary
. I have verified the GeForce video is selected for MuseScore. Even from a fresh power up, it just takes 30 to 60 seconds to come up when launched. The computer doesn't seem to be busy with anything, watch Task & Resource Manager. Everything seems fine, after MuseScore comes up.
Current application About stats:
OS: Windows 10 (10.0), Arch.: x86_64,
MuseScore version (64-bit): 3.5.2.311459983,
revision: 465e7b6
Comments
I see another thread talking about unchecking the Start Center, which I did during initial configuration. So, that isn't it. There was a mention that v3.5.0 did not have an issue starting. Can I go backward, or does the v3.5.2 install leave behind components responsible for this issue?
Do you have the MDL extension installed? If so, this long startup is to be expected and due to.l loading and uncompressing the MDL soundfont into memory
In reply to Do you have the MDL… by Jojo-Schmitz
I am totally new to MuseScore, just a few days. How do I check to see if this MDL extension is loaded? I see plug-ins... Is that the same?
In reply to I am totally new to… by AudioMaverickcom
If you didn't intentionally add it, then it's not there.
Windows 10 has a lot to do at startup, (background services etc.), so this is not a good time to check the speed of opening programs. Is it just the same when the computer has been on for 10 mins? Have you got a Windows update waiting to install?
Do you have a network mapped printer?
I've found MuseScore launch times to be extremely slow when I'm not connected to the network that has my default printer.
In reply to Do you have a network mapped… by jeetee
Amazing... I have a networked laser printer that is normally turned off. Launch time drops to about 5 or 6 seconds with it powered up.
I switched my default printer to "Microsoft Print to PDF" and the problem is gone! Going on day #4 with MuseScore, and I am again in awe of its capabilities (:>)
You get the gold star, my friend! Issue resolved...
In reply to Amazing... I have a… by AudioMaverickcom
If only there was a way to mark an answer as 'worked' or vote it up, somehow...
In reply to If only there was a way to… by AudioMaverickcom
Maybe the thread title could be changed to:
Solved: Slow To Launch
In reply to Do you have a network mapped… by jeetee
@jeetee: Nice one! Any idea why this impacts MS startup?
In reply to Nice one! Any idea why this… by yonah_ag
MuseScore uses the default page size from the default printer to create new documents. It allows us to quite accurately guess A4 or Letter sized paper for the majority of the users.
Unfortunately, especially on Windows, requesting that Page size from the operating system has quite a long timeout for networked printers in the underlying call. (On my machine this can vary between 10s at home vs 45sec when on the VPN of my work).
In reply to MuseScore uses the default… by jeetee
This printer problem is new and interesting to me. The only time that MuseScore loads slowly for is is when I have an sfz sound font active.
As I understand it, there are four ways to connect a W10 computer to a printer. I don't remember how VPN works.
Usb cable.
Printer and computer hard-wired to a network
Both wirelessly connected to a network
Wifi direct.
Because I live in an apartment complex, I might have 20 wifi signals all around me cluttering up the frequencies. So wifi direct is turned off on all devices. And because my wifi is wimpy to begin with, I have as much as possible hard wired.
Wifi direct is the easiest to set up, but also the wimpiest signal.
I don't think I've had a MuseScore start up problem due to a printer, but anything I can learn about it would seem like good info to have in general.
In reply to This printer problem is new… by bobjp
Pretty interesting, isn't it... Applications that preview document formats use the printer definition to create the displayed image. One would think that the printer driver would be enough, but the software actually checks to see what paper is loaded, first. Using a virtual printer, like a PDF writer, bypasses the hardware part and sends back the emulated paper settings.
. I would presume any default physical printer that is offline would cause this issue. Mine just happens to be a networked printer that was off.
In reply to Pretty interesting, isn't it… by AudioMaverickcom
I'll test that theory next time that I start MS as my USB attached printer is always offline, (powered off), when I start MS. Startup time is about 30s which I put down to my PC being 10 years old.
In reply to Pretty interesting, isn't it… by AudioMaverickcom
Interesting indeed. My laptop is about 6 or 7 years old (although I did put an SSD in it) starts MuseScore in less than 5 seconds. Networked printer on or off. Restarted or after running for a while. Something that I would think definitely would check the printer, Word, starts even faster. This computer has an old i5 and junk graphics.
Curiouser and curiouser.
In reply to Pretty interesting, isn't it… by AudioMaverickcom
Changed default printer to Microsoft Print to PDF and Musescore took 13s instead of 30s. :-)
Chrome web browser took 5s instead of about 20s. :-) :-)
PC is dual-core 3Ghz with mechanical hard disk drive.
In reply to Changed default printer to… by yonah_ag
So Chrome is having the very same issue?
In reply to So Chrome is having the very… by Jojo-Schmitz
It certainly looks like it. I tested MS which was much quicker opening so I then opened Chrome to post to this thread. I was really surprised when it opened so quickly, it always takes ages. This is a tiny sample size so I'll test more programs and default printer setting.
In reply to So Chrome is having the very… by Jojo-Schmitz
Musescore and Chrome continue to be much faster to open but with Excel and Word it doesn't seem to make any difference. Maybe MS could leave any printer config until the user actually wants to print.
In reply to Musescore and Chrome… by yonah_ag
The problem is we look at the default printer config to determine the most appropriate page size for new scores, including the default empty score - for some people it will be A4, for others US Letter, and for others something else entirely. That's why it gets checked right away.
In reply to The problem is we look at… by Marc Sabatella
We could delay that to (first) score creation, maybe. Won't make a difference to the default settings (and that "My First Score"), but should in 'restore last session' and 'start empty'
In reply to We could delay that to … by Jojo-Schmitz
I don't think introducing an arbitrarily long delay the first new score you create would be an improvement. I do, however, question whether this is the best way to determine an appropriate default page size.
In reply to I don't think introducing an… by Marc Sabatella
How about storing it in preferences? It makes a huge difference with my setup: down to 7s from 30s.
The default could be requested in a 'first time run' settings wizard.
In reply to The problem is we look at… by Marc Sabatella
So I changed my default paper size three times and it made no difference in start time between printer on or off.
In reply to So I changed my default… by bobjp
Clearly more data is required before changing any MS code. You are running SSD and I am on a mechanical HDD which should make some difference. I don't know why my initial improvement was from 30s to 13s but is now down to 7s. However, I am pleased that MS and Chrome both open so quickly after changing the default printer.
In reply to Clearly more data is… by yonah_ag
And the OP has a EVO 970 M.2 nVME, which is even faster.
In reply to And the OP has a EVO 970 M.2… by bobjp
I'm betting you both have a different local network as well as a different printer driver though...
In reply to I'm betting you both have a… by jeetee
I'm just trying to find a situation where the printer being on or off makes a difference to start time. Mainly for my own understanding of the network.
In reply to I'm just trying to find a… by bobjp
Which might very well depend on your printer driver which might not communicate with your printer for such a request.
In reply to Which might very well depend… by jeetee
My printer is attached directly to the PC by USB cable, there is no network connection involved.
In reply to This printer problem is new… by bobjp
And then there are printers phyically connected to another computer and shared to the network by those
In reply to Do you have a network mapped… by jeetee
Great answer. Thanks for posting!
In reply to Do you have a network mapped… by jeetee
2022: Same issue and solution. I do have a printer over wifi that was set as default. Changing the default printer to "Microsoft Print to PDF" makes Musescore now loads almost instantly. Lots of hearts! <3