Tie and volta
Open and launch the playback of this test file made from scratch: test1.mscz
After the first volta, the tied G continues to be heard in the third empty measure. Does anyone remember a bug related to this? And we get the same result with previous versions.
We remove the tie, and of course, the problem disappears.
I can not imagine that it has not been reported yet, or I missed something.
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I can confirm on OS: Windows 7, Arch.: i386, MuseScore version (32-bit): 2.2.1, revision: 51b8386
Also, entering a note in the empty measure doesn't resolve the problem: you then have two notes sounding. See attached.
In reply to I can confirm on OS: Windows… by Louis Cloete
"Also, entering a note in the empty measure doesn't resolve the problem: you then have two notes sounding."
Yes, I know. I had noticed that firstly. Just that with an empty measure, it's more obvious/spectacular yet.
In reply to "Also, entering a note in… by cadiz1
And same behaviour with the current 3.0 dev. 9f6355e
In reply to And same behaviour with the… by cadiz1
I could not think it, and yet, going back in time and years, I always see the same behavior. Really amazed by that.
Issue soon reported.
In reply to I could not think it, and… by cadiz1
Issue filled: #271861: A tie included into a volta leads to the maintaining of the heard note in the following measure
In reply to Issue filled: #271861: A tie… by cadiz1
So it is not something that got introduced by the volta or unison improvements in 2.2?
In reply to So it is not something that… by Jojo-Schmitz
Absolutely not.
I have to pinch myself to believe it, but I notice the same behaviour throughout the previous versions and years, until May 2014! Really incredible that it went unnoticed.
Even the Piano Roll Editor is illogical:
Have a listen while viewing the Piano Roll Editor:
test1_piano_roll.mscz
Regards.
In reply to Even the Piano Roll Editor… by Jm6stringer
I guess:
When a note is tied (to another), a length information is being generated.
Even when the Volta skips, this length of information is (may be not displayed but) preserved.
If one of the notes is outside of Volta, this problem occurs.
Because tying two notes means that they are combined into a single note (equal to the total length of the two tied notes)
In reply to I guess:… by Ziya Mete Demircan
As you wrote:
When a note is tied (to another), a length information is being generated.
and
...tying two notes means that they are combined into a single note (equal to the total length of the two tied notes)
OK, so...
The playback engine combines the tied G's into a single note (length information) of 6 total beats - which plays the first time.
Then, the playback engine re-uses that entire 6 beat note also for the 'silent' second ending.
Which means that the Piano Roll Editor does not truly display what is actually being sounded... :-(
Regards.
In reply to As you wrote:… by Jm6stringer
Here is what I see on the piano-roll window: There is a jump to the sixth measure from the end of the fourth measure (after reprise).
And the long (six-beat) note's duration in the fourth measure isn't yet finished (while jumping).
But this isn't true for the jump at the end of the first measure (after reprise).
Because there is a half-note (two beats long) on first measure, and a whole-note (four beats long) in the second measure . (you can see it when you click each one. (see attachment) )
// If we could see an unfolded version, the jump wouldn't fool us.
In reply to Here is what I see on the… by Ziya Mete Demircan
And same as true for D.S. al coda, and D.C. al coda...
In reply to Here is what I see on the… by Ziya Mete Demircan
I see the same as you on the piano-roll window.
In your piano-roll.png attachment, you selected the first of the of the 'two separate notes' to show a yellow contrast so it doesn't look like the 'one long note' which shows later.
You and I are both aware of the new attack for the second note:
What surprised me was that the piano roll editor, like the score itself, shows nothing sounding at the second ending. (One could not use it, then, to shorten the duration.)
Because the playback engine recycles the 'one long note' (i.e. dotted whole note), it splashes over into the second ending, with no possibility of using the editor, which normally is used for adjustments like this.
Regards.