text, tremolando, lines.
text input is v glitchy and laborious. can take forever to get the cursor to select everything in the text box, then sometimes won't allow me to change font, and no obvious way of making favourite fonts.
tremolando - this moves around the score after saving - so with a trem on a minim, say, the trem will migrate an inch or so up from where it should be, so constantly needs putting back. something similar happens with lines, say a slur, which will change its shape when file is saved.
it would also be useful to have a dotted line option.
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Tremolando = Temolo? These are in the Tremolo palette in the Advanced workspace. Click the word basic below the palettes and select advanced to change workspaces. If you use these, they are reasonably placed. If you don't like the location of one, then (press F8 to open the inspector in necessary and) move it. If these are not the same can you post a picture of one, preferably as a PNG image?
Dotted lines - You can select a line and change the Line style in the inspector (press F8 to turn it on or off).
The font can be changed on a specific text element by right clicking it and selecting Text Properties... and changing the font, justification and several other items. These can be changed on all similar text items, such as staff text, by right clicking and choosing Text Style... There are similarly named items on the context (right click) menu that do very different things, so make sure you select the correct option.
Slurs change their shapes and lines move around when you use the double click and move the endpoint method of adjusting them. This method is meant for minor adjustments to the items. Dragging the end past the next note or before the previous note should never be done. If you want to change which note the line or slur is anchored to (the red dot and line that appears when you select an end dot), use shift + arrows to change the anchor point. It is best to select the first and last note where you want the line or slur to span then double click the line or add the slur (I always press s to add a slur). This way the line or slur will be anchored in the correct place to begin with. This applies to ALL items in the lines palette except the Ambitus. It is important to use this for < type crescendos because they like to move around if you don't follow these instructions. All of this is actually in the manual but not put together to explain it like this. One final note, if something from the line's palette only spans to part of a note, then make it span all of the note, then you can double click it and shorten it to make it look right.
In reply to Tremolando = Temolo? These… by mike320
thanks Mike..
with this - "These can be changed on all similar text items, such as staff text, by right clicking and choosing Text Style" - do you mean that I can set a particular style/font etc as default for ALL scores/files I might produce? if not, can I do that, and how?
In reply to thanks Mike… by joek12
Setup one score to your liking and save as template, from then on create new scores from that template.
Or from that score save the style and on new scores load that style.
In reply to Tremolando = Temolo? These… by mike320
ps yes, I meant tremolo
In reply to ps yes, I meant tremolo by joek12
If you have any further questions or something is not clear do not hesitate to ask.
In reply to Tremolando = Temolo? These… by mike320
re trem. - I'm attaching a PDF of the score showing where I put trem. in bar 7, and the file after being immediately saved and reopened showing where the trem has now migrated to. this is what happens every time I move it back to its original position.
In reply to re trem. - I'm attaching a… by joek12
In regards to the tremolo, you have moved the tremolo lines, probably as soon as you entered them. I suggest that you enter all notes, ornaments lines and so forth before you move anything. This will prevent items from moving when you close and reopen the file. You may also find you need to move fewer items. I click a couple of the tremolo lines and pressed ctrl+r to reset them to their original positions and they definitely look better than before I did that.
In reply to In regards to the tremolo,… by mike320
Ok, I think we're getting somewhere - yes, I did move the trem lines, because, as you can see from the attached (b7) the trem (i.e. when it is created, before being moved at all) collides with the natural accidental. so my question now is how can I get the trem positioned so it doesn't collide in this way, and stays where I put it? NB I've tried increasing the stretch but can't see how to do this so that the 2 notes forming the trem are moved further apart.
In reply to Ok, I think we're getting… by joek12
I now see why you did that. I made the Horizontal offset of the tremolo -1 in the inspector and it looks a lot like the PDF.
In reply to I now see why you did that… by mike320
i tried this, after redoing the trem from scratch, but when I saved and re-opened the file the trem had migrated as before - so ???
In reply to i tried this, after redoing… by joek12
Sorry, I didn't double check the results when I closed and reopened it. That looks like a bug, because the inspector is automatically changing the vertical offset to -3.5. Changing the vertical offset to 3.5 made it correct when I saved and reopened it. I don't see any place to adjust the default settings on a tremolo so the workaround is required.
I suggest that you submit a bug report here with a priority of normal. Copy the address to this discussion and paste it into your report saying it was discussed here.
In reply to Sorry, I didn't double check… by mike320
thanks - have done - workaround seems of limited value though because if you save/reopen for a second time it reverts to the too-high position, or did for me.....
In reply to thanks - have done -… by joek12
I tried it on your file and some other files that had a different vertical offset and I got a 0 vertical offset after I saved, closed and opened the file. You need to make sure that if MuseScore makes the offset -3.25 you change it to 3.25. If MuseScore makes it 1.25, you make it -1.25 and so forth.
In reply to I tried it on your file and… by mike320
sorry, none of this working for me. if I do what you suggest and then make any further edits (esp re other trem positions) etc it reverts to the 'bad' offset. seems like a serious problem that's been around for a while. also you can't always do a precise offset reverse (you might get 1.30 not 1.25). and really there shouldn't be a difference between moving objects manually and changing the settings, should there?
In reply to Sorry, I didn't double check… by mike320
at what stage were you changing the offset - before saving or after re-opening?
In reply to at what stage were you… by joek12
I enter the tremolo and change the horizontal offset to -1. Save, close then open and look at the vertical offset. I change the Vertical offset (I just added or deleted a - sign) then save, close and open and the Vertical offset is back to zero. The vertical offset changes from one situation to another so you can't just start by changing the vertical offset also.
In reply to I enter the tremolo and… by mike320
OK, so this now seems to work, as long as the vertical offset is corrected after each re-edit of the file. thanks again. I'm attaching the current mscz file, in which b7 now seems to be as it should be, but if you try an edit of any other element, then save/re-open, you might see that the problem reappears.
In reply to OK, so this now seems to… by joek12
That does not really surprise me. I normally advise people to enter the entire score before they change any defaults on locations or displays for this very reason. You never know which edit will cause the score to be drastically changed. I also advise putting a hard system break at the end of each system during the edit phase to prevent measures from moving between systems and ruining all of the edits you just did.