Lyric hyphens between systems
I've been using MuseScore 2 for a year and now create all my scores using it. Marc Sabatella's excellent book "Mastering MusicScore" is the only book in my library which I have bought twice (paperback and Kindle editions). That said, there is one thing I'd like to do which I can't. If you have a lyric word which extends across 2 systems, is it possible to set MuseScore to add a hyphen on the second system? At the moment, I completely finish the score, then add hyphens manually using stave text (it doesn't take long to do). A small thing, I know - it's probably in there somewhere.
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Sorry I don't get it, can you show a sample score (and please nor just a picture of it)?
It might be as easy as hitting - until you reach the 2nd system
In reply to Sorry I don't get it, can… by Jojo-Schmitz
Hmm... now that you mention it.
Why would the OP add hyphens using stave text, when lyrics entry can already connect syllables with hyphens?
When entering lyrics, pressing the spacebar or entering a hyphen advances the score.
To enter a 'hard' space or 'hard' hyphen, so the score does not advance, use Ctrl (in combination).
So, if I understand your question...
You can begin the second system with a 'hard' hyphen.
See:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/lyrics#special-characters
Sorry to have not made myself completely clear! Here's a simple file to illustrate what I'm talking about. I want a hyphen before the "lem" in measure 4, which would just be a repeat of the one in measure 3, but would clarify that "lem" is part of "problem". Hyphens.mscz
In reply to Sorry to have not made… by Michael45
Double click 'lem', Ctrl+-
see also: https://musescore.org/en/node/21522
In reply to Double click 'lem', Ctrl+- by Shoichi
Thanks Shoichi (and everyone). I tried the "Ctrl+ "-", increased the size to match the hyphen in measure 3, added a hard space and here's the result. Much quicker than what I was doing.
In reply to Thanks Shoichi (and everyone… by Michael45
You're welcome.
MuseScore is quite flexible, I usually let it apply its default settings because I trust that they reflect the correct rules of musical notation. But in case of your own needs...
Buona musica!
In reply to Thanks Shoichi (and everyone… by Michael45
No prob
-lem
:-)
That's quite the compliment, thanks!
Ctrl+hyphen is indeed a good way to go for this. I don't have my copy of "Behind Bars" handy, not sure what she recommends for this case? Maybe it should be done automatically? I know we did something very specific for melisma continuation lines (eg, "_" at the *end* of a word) to make sure they continue - see #3961: Melisma line over system break. Odd that no one seemed to have mentioned hyphens in that context. Maybe this just isn't commonly done? I see other programs an option to generate them automatically, but it defaults to off. Probably we should consider the same.
In reply to That's quite the compliment,… by Marc Sabatella
Hi Marc,
I think that Finale has the option to include the courtesy hyphens at the start of a new system, but defaults to "off". I was just interested to see whether anyone else had the same requirement and how they solved it. By the way, I see that the "Mastering MuseScore" is published in French as well! I'll email the Principal of the local music school here in Brittany and let him know about it. I now use MuseScore for everything, unless I'm revising an old Finale music file!
In reply to Hi Marc, I think that Finale… by Michael45
Yes, I'd like that option in MuseScore too
In reply to Yes, I'd like that option in… by Jojo-Schmitz
I agree.
Adding the extra dash is tricky, though: the second System has no LyricsLineSegment at all.
At the current point in time, I’d be happy with a logic like, if a syllabic end is on the first ChordRest of a System, draw a dash at some fixed distance (2sp seems to look well) before it.
In reply to Yes, I'd like that option in… by Jojo-Schmitz
See suggestion #313736: [Text input] Provide curly quotes in F2 Special Characters > Common Symbols
This suggestion mentions:
a) that a leading hyphen at the start of a system is normal in French scores, often used in English scores, but almost never in German scores;
b) that the Ctrl + - method produces a leading hyphen which does not match the auto-generated lyric hyphens.
In reply to See suggestion #313736: … by DanielR
Reg. that lyrics hyphen see #21239: Style of dash doesn't follow lyrics style