How to add a part?
Please could someone kindly help me to get going on Musescore, it's baffling. I thought I'd try scoring a simple duet, Cornet and Eb horn (the flat symbol doesn't work in any text box so you can't type it into part titles). Musescore doesn't admit the existence of Horns in Eb which is annoying straight away but there we go. I have carefully written my horn part and it looks great and it was easy to do, all good so far, but now HOW DO I ADD MY CORNET PART?
I followed the instructions in the help carefully but nothing much happens.
I go to File - parts and click on New but it only offer me piano as a single option and it doesn't admit that the Horn part I have spent hours writing even exists. So I select 'piano' and type Horn Eb into the title and I do get a new part which is a duplicate of my horn part (but the page set up is wrong and it's not a piano part, it's just treble clef so why is it even called 'piano'?) and it has the words Horn Eb (which I typed in) superimposed on top of the word Piano in the top left corner. However I can't see my original horn part in the list of parts (and its title has an asterisk after it, I can't work out what that means).
Please, what on earth is going on? How exactly do I now add my cornet part? Many thanks indeed.
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yoiu don't want to add a (linked) part (not yet at least), but an instrument, so just press I, then add Cornet.
And I have the suspicion you just started with the treble clef template, which is Piano, rather than an empty score and adding en Eb Horn, so for that you need to change the instrument, right-click in the staff, staff properties, change instrument. This will change transpositioning too...
In reply to yoiu don't want to add a … by Jojo-Schmitz
AAArggghh, no!!! I went to 'Instrument' and it was a complete nightmare. Added the word 'piano' to every line which I then couldn't get rid of, np way of deleting this, would lost all my work if I hadn't saved a backup!!
Thanks but I don't get how I can change instrument to Eb horn when Eb horn is not in the list --? That's why I had to start with piano. If Musescore doesn't admit that Eb horns exist what else can I choose? Thanks again for replying.
In reply to AAArggghh, no!!! I went to … by Sprog
I tried 'Stave Properties' which I guess is the same as 'Staff' as you suggest, it offers me Horn in F, Bb Cornet, Bb Trumpet (huh? why two Bb options?) Trombone or Tuba. No Eb horn. Kind of annoying.
In reply to I tried 'Stave Properties'… by Sprog
Enter "horn" into the search field. Horn in Eb is there, ist is just nopt in Common Instruments.
As son as you have more that instrument by default the instrumentnames are shown. If you don't want them, go to staff properties and remove them there. The fact that it shows Piano confirms my suspicion from above
In reply to Enter "horn" into the search… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thank you, I'll try that and see if I can make some progress. It must be possible just to write a simple duet with two treble clef parts. To be honest I don't care what the instruments are, I just need two simple treble clef sheets. Thanks again. I'm not optimistic, it seems incredibly hard :(
In reply to Thank you, I'll try that and… by Sprog
It is incredibly easy: new score, empty template, add instruments dialog, search horn, add, search cornet, add, OK, start entering notes.
If you want horn, don't start with piano, esp. not here with transposing instruments
To not lose what you already did: attach the score here and I'll try to fix it for you
In reply to It is incredible easy: new… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thanks but, no, it's incredibly hard. I have had to completely give up all my work and start a new score from scratch. So I select the 'choose instruments' template and choose Horn Eb and Cornet Bb. It asks me for a key so I select Bb major (two flats) which is the key for my horn part. It produces a score in which the Horn is in G (one sharp) and the Cornet is in C!! I want my horn part in Bb not G!!! I try to select two flats but it won't do it. All I want is two to write simple parts in treble clef, but in different keys. Ha ha, it must be possible! ;) Thanks for your kind help, I really appreciate it.
In reply to Thanks but, no, it's… by Sprog
As mentioned: these are transposing instruments, that's why you seem to get a different keysig as you asked for, while in reality you asxeked for the wrong key sig. Check what happens when hitting the 'concert pitch' button
In reply to As mentioned: these are… by Jojo-Schmitz
What? I KNOW what key I want my horn part in, two flats. That is the correct key sig. How do I tell Musecore please? It won't let me specify my key or change my key, it's driving me crazy. The cornet part should have three flats, obviously, but it just won't do it.
In reply to What? I KNOW what key I want… by Sprog
no it is not, these are transposing instruments.
In reply to As mentioned: these are… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thank you for this suggestion but it puts both the horn and cornet in the same key, which is obviously completely useless.
In reply to Thanks but, no, it's… by Sprog
I try and try to drag two flats onto my horn part but it changes it to one sharp!!! I WANT TWO FLATS!!!
I could write these parts by hand in ten minutes! (but players complain they can't read my writing! ;) )
In reply to I try and try to drag two… by Sprog
Ha ha, so if I drag FIVE flats onto my part it gives me horn and cornet parts with the correct key signatures.
Now my problem is when I paste the music I wrote into my new horn part it changes all the notes. Phewee...
In reply to Ha ha, so if I drag FIVE… by Sprog
AND it has moved lots of stuff up an octave!!! But if I select all and do cursor down it is moving my notes into the correct positions. Maybe this is possible after all ;)
In reply to AND it has moved lots of… by Sprog
of course it is
In reply to Ha ha, so if I drag FIVE… by Sprog
use the transpose dialog
In reply to I try and try to drag two… by Sprog
2 flats on horn means Db-Major, 5 flats
In reply to 2 flats on horn means Db… by Jojo-Schmitz
Ha ha, thanks, but not to a brass band player, we really don't care about the crazy world of concert pitch ;))
In reply to Ha ha, thanks, but not to a… by Sprog
Well, not if you play along with any other instrument that is non-transposing or transposed differently (like here the Bb Cornet and the Eb Horn)
Then again there's the concert pitch button to the rescue?
There are brass band templates, why not using those as a start?
In reply to Well, not if you play along… by Jojo-Schmitz
The concert pitch button changes both instruments to the same key, which is not immediately helpful. But I can see it will be helpful in learning my keys and teaching me to transpose so yes thanks for that.
In reply to Ha ha, thanks, but not to a… by Sprog
Wow, amazingly now I have a score with two staves and two instruments in the correct key signatures. Now all I have to work out is how to print the two parts separately, and to alter the setup so that each part prints on one single page of A4. Right now I can't work out how to see my separate parts, but I guess it must be possible. Coffee may help ;) Thanks again for your great advice.
In reply to Wow, amazingly now I have a… by Sprog
File/Parts/all new
In reply to File/Parts/all new by Jojo-Schmitz
Wow, the way it generates parts from a score is amazing, really awesome. Thanks again for your great help.
In reply to Wow, amazingly now I have a… by Sprog
Coffee helped!! ;)