Eliminating rests after shortening a note
I have this seemingly simple operation that I can't figure out how to do. Say I have a 4/4 measure with 2 half notes. I want to change it to a quarter note, followed by a dotted half note. If I change the first half note to a quarter note, I then get a quarter rest so it goes like this:
| Qnote Qrest Hnote |
I can make the last half note dotted, but then it just spills into the next measure with a tie:
| Qnote Qrest Hnote |QNote (tied)
How can I get rid of that extra quarter rest? I know you can't delete rests per se, but surely there must be some simple way I'm missing.
Comments
Moving things around is done by copy and paste.
If your operation is to shorten both notes AND keep them together (hey, that's already two operations in this sentence), you can get some help from the paste-as-half-duration command:
1. Select both half notes
2. Cut
3. Paste as half duration
4. Lengthen the 2nd note
In reply to Moving things around is done… by jeetee
In general, cut/paste is what I'm looking for. Here's what works for me:
1. Make the first half note into a quarter note. You get a quarter rest after it.
2. Cut the second half note and paste onto the quarter reset. It becomes a quarter note.
3. Lengthen it to a dotted half.
Pasting onto the rest was the simple step that had illuded me.
In reply to In general, cut/paste is… by jonharris7
Ok with the nuance that for one note only reentering it from scratch over the rest is quicker than cut and paste
In reply to In general, cut/paste is… by jonharris7
Pasting a half note onto a quarter rest would not turn it into a quarter note, not when it is a range selection (delimited by that blue box) containing just that one note/chord. It is those it it is a list selection (just selected via a click, as I just found out to my surprise)
In reply to Pasting a half note onto a… by Jojo-Schmitz
@Jojo sounds almost like a bug isn't it?
In reply to @Jojo sounds almost like a… by frfancha
Not sure, probably more by design. In a list selection case you basically copy the pitch of a note only, not its duration, as a note by itself doesn't have a duration, it is the chord (even if it is a 1-note chord) that bears the duration (and the stem/flag/aurmentation dot, courtesy accidental, lyrics syllable, chord symbol etc.), and for that you need a range selection.
A note is really just the notehead, pitch and shape.
In reply to @Jojo sounds almost like a… by frfancha
It's by design that when you only select a notehead, that only the notehead properties are pasted, and not the chord properties to which that notehead belongs (such as the duration).
In reply to It's by design that when you… by jeetee
Ok I understand the design and even find it quite smart but I would be surprised that the "average" user would find it intuitive
In reply to Ok I understand the design… by frfancha
Depends where the "average" user comes from. Not everything is intuitive to everybody.
MuseScore has a mode which allows you to extend and reduce measure length while shortening/extending notes.
So do what you need you can:
-either shorten the first note and enter the dotted half note from scratch on the second beat (copy paste is slower than reentering for a single note)
-either use that special mode where you can change the first note to quarter, delete the rest (then the measure will appear "shorter" indicated by a minus sign), extend the second note to dotted (then the measure will have its normal length again, minus sign disappears).
You want to move the place of the 2nd half note, it is on the 3rd time and you want to put it on the 2nd half of the 2nd time, so you must move it.
You change the 1st half note into a quater : OK now, enter on the new rest which is at the good place, any note , for exemple an eight note to replace it. Click on this eight note and tape 6 + point and the eight note becomes an dotted half note , completely in the measure