This is not a reasonable place to post this; this forum ("Made with musescore") is a historical relic. The right place to post this where people will see it and comment on it and appreciate it is in a group on musescore.com. This is musescore.org, which is for discussions of the desktop music notation software. Good luck, and enjoy musescore!
Could you elaborate on how you perceive this forum to differ from the groups on .com, and what scores would be more appropriate posted here than there? Playing my own Devil's advocate, I'd suggest scores that use MS in a new, different, or unusual way, i.e., other than musical content (such as my textbook-resembling scores); .org is the coding workshop— .com is the concert hall.
There is nothing wrong with posting a piece here since it's purpose is to allow fro posting scores. It just that you will get a lot more views if you post it on .com in an active group.
There is no such here thing as "views". You cannot view or play a score here. You have to download it (and have a functioning application and know how to use it). You can indeed set up a chair and play the guitar and sing in a gas station, or by the side of a highway, but you will do a lot better in a coffeehouse. You might be able to buy some food at the pharmacy, but you will do a lot better at the supermarket (sorry if I have used this analogy before). By posting here, wanderers disadvantage no one but themselves.
I don't see why the same argument doesn't apply to posting ".com" complaints here. Long ago, this was an appropriate place, and it's a natural error to make, and it doesn't hurt anyone. The people who do so by mistake are not likely to get the response they're looking for here, but, hey, that's the same as posting music in this forum. Yet, we, without exception, direct them to the right place.
I was presenting a "rhetorical straw-person argument", i.e., "if this, then why not that, which is obviously wrong", as a form of argument demonstrating why the first thing was wrong, not a serious proposal.
Actually, we have "scarecrow", too, (I guess we don't want to scare other species) ... but, other than in rhetorical arguments, that is the most common employ of straw hominids...
There is no counter telling how many people actually view your score here, but the reality is there are probably about 20 people likely to see a score posted here (that is get 20 views) but you can potentially get a thousand or more in the right group.
Sorry that this isn't about the piece itself, but I think the .org subforum is there to help those without a pro account share their music. Of course, I could just make tons and tons of alts, but that's tiring on my part and unfair for those who bought pro. It's kinda sad that most of the stuff found here are questions about how to use MuseScore instead of actual music (or even weird threads like https://musescore.org/en/node/285550).
Umm, I'm not understanding. The explicit purpose of the .org site is to publish and discuss "how to use MuseScore" (the desktop notation program) and to report and deal with bugs, not to discuss musical content, knowledge, or critique, or publish scores. All the latter is what musescore.com is for.
On the one hand, not each user has the financial capabilities to pay for a pro account (I'm not talking about me, more in general).
Above, I remember on a forum entry in this subforum, where an user created a score (=made with MuseScore), which has been published by a public publisher (IIRC "Bärenreiter"). Maybe that could be also posted in "General discussion", but in my opinion at least here it makes sense for this subforum.
What's the use of posting it here if almost no one looks here? You can't direct outsiders to it, because they can't play or even see it unless they download the application, and if that's all what you want to do, you can post it on any general hosting site in the world. As real estate vendors say, "location, location, location."
But what where would be the right place on musescore.org/musescore.com for such reports (In my opinion neither on musescore.com nor in "general discussions")?
Sure, it doesn't contain the mscz file itself (maybe because of copyright restrictions), but did you notice the forum topic "Bärenreiter BA 11820 Bach/Leonhardt transcriptions made with MuseScore"?
As partially mentioned, maybe you're right, but in general I wish to have an own section for it to show, what's all possible with MuseScore ( so that it will be noticed from user beside other discussions - without really being sure if this subforum would be the right place therefore ;-).
"What's possible with MuseScore" sounds exactly right, but 99% of the scores posted there will by people understandably mistaking it for a showcase for musical content.
Agree. But playing around with my thoughts, I also could imagine to have an own section on the musescore homepage (not sure about the capacities of the maintainers) of "made with MuseScore" (beside "download", "support", "contribute" and "activity"). There I could imagine to publish reports as mentioned (mscz files published by an official publisher), but also to point out other successful activities like "openscore", "open goldberg" and so on.
Closing a subforum is a major decision; however, it isn't hard (for admins) to post a pinned topic in this subforum to direct score sharers to musescore.com (before that major decision is made) :)
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This is not a reasonable place to post this; this forum ("Made with musescore") is a historical relic. The right place to post this where people will see it and comment on it and appreciate it is in a group on musescore.com. This is musescore.org, which is for discussions of the desktop music notation software. Good luck, and enjoy musescore!
In reply to This is not a reasonable… by [DELETED] 1831606
This forum though still exists and for this purpose...
There's been discussions to remove it, no outcome yet though
In reply to This forum though still… by Jojo-Schmitz
Could you elaborate on how you perceive this forum to differ from the groups on .com, and what scores would be more appropriate posted here than there? Playing my own Devil's advocate, I'd suggest scores that use MS in a new, different, or unusual way, i.e., other than musical content (such as my textbook-resembling scores); .org is the coding workshop— .com is the concert hall.
In reply to Could you elaborate on how… by [DELETED] 1831606
None of MuseScore.com's features are here, but also none of its restrictions. Other than that both serve the same purpose
There is nothing wrong with posting a piece here since it's purpose is to allow fro posting scores. It just that you will get a lot more views if you post it on .com in an active group.
In reply to There is nothing wrong with… by mike320
There is no such here thing as "views". You cannot view or play a score here. You have to download it (and have a functioning application and know how to use it). You can indeed set up a chair and play the guitar and sing in a gas station, or by the side of a highway, but you will do a lot better in a coffeehouse. You might be able to buy some food at the pharmacy, but you will do a lot better at the supermarket (sorry if I have used this analogy before). By posting here, wanderers disadvantage no one but themselves.
In reply to There is no such here thing… by [DELETED] 1831606
I don't see why the same argument doesn't apply to posting ".com" complaints here. Long ago, this was an appropriate place, and it's a natural error to make, and it doesn't hurt anyone. The people who do so by mistake are not likely to get the response they're looking for here, but, hey, that's the same as posting music in this forum. Yet, we, without exception, direct them to the right place.
In reply to I don't see why the same… by [DELETED] 1831606
For scores no doubt musescore.com Os the better place, for questions or complaints about musescore.com though, musescore.com is the only place
In reply to For scores no doubt… by Jojo-Schmitz
I'll "raise you one". I propose removing this subforum. I'd like to hear the counterarguments.
In reply to I'll "raise you one". I… by [DELETED] 1831606
I'm not against removing this subforum at all, it's purpose indeed got outdated long ago when musescore.com got put up.
In reply to I'm not against removing… by Jojo-Schmitz
:)
In reply to :) by [DELETED] 1831606
If there were a subforum for 'MuseScore.com issues' here on musescore.org, I wouldn't need to complain about those mis-posts ;-)
NOOOO!!! I don't want such a subforum
In reply to If there were a subforum for… by Jojo-Schmitz
I was presenting a "rhetorical straw-person argument", i.e., "if this, then why not that, which is obviously wrong", as a form of argument demonstrating why the first thing was wrong, not a serious proposal.
In reply to I was presenting a … by [DELETED] 1831606
I got that, and did the same too ;-)
In reply to I got that, and did the same… by Jojo-Schmitz
:) (I guess I have to say that the usual English term is "strawman argument", but I now reflexively modernize sexist terms).
In reply to :) (I guess I have to say… by [DELETED] 1831606
I understood that but don't realy like those genderisms ;-) You're not replaceing "woman" woth "woperson" either, do you?
In reply to I understood that but don't… by Jojo-Schmitz
No, but does seem as though if you were trying to construct a straw figure to scare crows, it by no means should be restricted to portrayals of men.
In reply to No, but does seem as though… by [DELETED] 1831606
OK, the corresponding German word for that is gender neutral already, Vogelscheuche
In reply to OK, the corresponding German… by Jojo-Schmitz
Actually, we have "scarecrow", too, (I guess we don't want to scare other species) ... but, other than in rhetorical arguments, that is the most common employ of straw hominids...
In reply to Actually, we have "scarecrow… by [DELETED] 1831606
Our's are scaring away all birds ;-)
In reply to There is no such here thing… by [DELETED] 1831606
There is no counter telling how many people actually view your score here, but the reality is there are probably about 20 people likely to see a score posted here (that is get 20 views) but you can potentially get a thousand or more in the right group.
In reply to There is no counter telling… by mike320
We (you, JoJo, me) seem to be in fervid agreement about the utility of this relic. Who is in charge of removing it? Who are the admins?
In reply to We (you, JoJo, me) seem to… by [DELETED] 1831606
@Anatoly_os (and to a certain extent still @Thomas Bonte)
Sorry that this isn't about the piece itself, but I think the .org subforum is there to help those without a pro account share their music. Of course, I could just make tons and tons of alts, but that's tiring on my part and unfair for those who bought pro. It's kinda sad that most of the stuff found here are questions about how to use MuseScore instead of actual music (or even weird threads like https://musescore.org/en/node/285550).
In reply to Sorry that this isn't about… by Brian Berino
Umm, I'm not understanding. The explicit purpose of the .org site is to publish and discuss "how to use MuseScore" (the desktop notation program) and to report and deal with bugs, not to discuss musical content, knowledge, or critique, or publish scores. All the latter is what musescore.com is for.
In reply to Umm, I'm not understanding. … by [DELETED] 1831606
If that is the case, this subforum needs to get closed.
Up for the site admins to decide and do.
In reply to If that is the case, this… by Jojo-Schmitz
I disagree to close this subforum.
On the one hand, not each user has the financial capabilities to pay for a pro account (I'm not talking about me, more in general).
Above, I remember on a forum entry in this subforum, where an user created a score (=made with MuseScore), which has been published by a public publisher (IIRC "Bärenreiter"). Maybe that could be also posted in "General discussion", but in my opinion at least here it makes sense for this subforum.
In reply to I disagree to close this… by kuwitt
What's the use of posting it here if almost no one looks here? You can't direct outsiders to it, because they can't play or even see it unless they download the application, and if that's all what you want to do, you can post it on any general hosting site in the world. As real estate vendors say, "location, location, location."
In reply to What's the use of posting it… by [DELETED] 1831606
Concerning my second thought, I'm talking about this forum topic entry: https://musescore.org/en/node/249356.
I'm sure, I wouldn't have notice it, when the user would have commented it on musescore.com, and I don't think there's the right place.
Via crossreferencing: The DTP application Scribus has an own section on its homepage (https://www.scribus.net/category/made-with-scribus/).
But what where would be the right place on musescore.org/musescore.com for such reports (In my opinion neither on musescore.com nor in "general discussions")?
In reply to Concerning my second thought… by kuwitt
That's not a score anyhow, but 'just' a PDF
In reply to That's not a score anyhow,… by Jojo-Schmitz
Sure, it doesn't contain the mscz file itself (maybe because of copyright restrictions), but did you notice the forum topic "Bärenreiter BA 11820 Bach/Leonhardt transcriptions made with MuseScore"?
In reply to Sure, it doesn't contain the… by kuwitt
Yes, but that would fit "General discussion" too
In reply to Yes, but that would fit … by Jojo-Schmitz
As partially mentioned, maybe you're right, but in general I wish to have an own section for it to show, what's all possible with MuseScore ( so that it will be noticed from user beside other discussions - without really being sure if this subforum would be the right place therefore ;-).
In reply to As partially mentioned,… by kuwitt
"What's possible with MuseScore" sounds exactly right, but 99% of the scores posted there will by people understandably mistaking it for a showcase for musical content.
In reply to "What's possible with… by [DELETED] 1831606
Agree. But playing around with my thoughts, I also could imagine to have an own section on the musescore homepage (not sure about the capacities of the maintainers) of "made with MuseScore" (beside "download", "support", "contribute" and "activity"). There I could imagine to publish reports as mentioned (mscz files published by an official publisher), but also to point out other successful activities like "openscore", "open goldberg" and so on.
In reply to I disagree to close this… by kuwitt
Those still have 5 scores free
In reply to If that is the case, this… by Jojo-Schmitz
Closing a subforum is a major decision; however, it isn't hard (for admins) to post a pinned topic in this subforum to direct score sharers to musescore.com (before that major decision is made) :)
Dope! Love that it's a duet between saxes - I feel like I haven't seen any of those in a LONG time!