Hooks

• Sep 16, 2019 - 14:30

Why do hooks appear in my score.

In many of my scores, 'hook' suddenly appear. These cause the note below them to be one duration longer in the score, but they don't affect the playback. How do I stop hooks appearing and how do I get rid of them?

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• Sep 16, 2019 - 15:38

Thank you. Right now I do not have a score with 'hooks' in them as I have rather painstakingly corrected. I do this by deleting the note (usually a crotchet), and replacing it with the one that it is supposed to be (usually a quaver). This takes a while as you can imagine if there are hooks on every note. But as soon as a score appears with this problem I will send to you.
Henry

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• Sep 16, 2019 - 20:15

I think part of the "problem" here is that I at least have no idea what you're talking about when you talk about "hooks on notes". In case of not having a score, perhaps you have an image of what you mean somewhere?
If not, feel free to just post a score showing the behavior you found erratic whenever it occurs again.

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• Sep 17, 2019 - 06:46

Hi Jeetee,

As soon as a score with these ' hooks' appears I will send to you. For the present I have 'repaired' them - this is very slow as you have to delete each note that has a hook and replace it with the correct note. You can imagine how long this takes for a whole staff with notes with 'hooks'. What a 'hook' does is that it changes a quaver into a crotchet, so it looks like the measure now has too much. For example say the measure has 8 quaver notes (in 4/4 time). The hook (a little tail like item above the note), changes the note above which it sits, so it looks like the measure has the equivalent of 9 quaver units. However this does not affect playback at at all. Musescore plays back the apparent crotchet as if it were a quaver (as it originally was). Now if you click on the 'hook' a hook menu appears with about 6 options, one is 'delete' but this does not work.

Thanks,

Henry

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• Sep 17, 2019 - 07:27

So with hooks you mean the flag (or beam) that is attached to the stem of an 8th note (quaver to the British)?
Quarter notes (crotchet to the British) and longer don't have them, 8th has one, 16th has two of them, 32nd has three etc.

So of you have a note with such a flag, hook or beam and want to get rid of it, you need a note with a longer duration, if you have a note without such a flag but want one, you need a note with a shorter duration.
See https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/note-input#change-duration

In 3.2 we have a tool for this for multiple subsecquent notes at a time: Select, Copy, then Edit > Paste Double Duration and Edit > Paste Half Duration

If you want to have notes of different duration in the same staff and measure at the same time, you need voices, see https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/voices

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• Sep 17, 2019 - 08:00

HI ,

I received an additional comment from Jojo-Schmidt.

The 'hooks' that I am referring to are short vertical lines that look like a tail of a bird that appear sometimes above the notes. They are free standing and not attached to anything - nothing to do with beams between notes. However they are positioned above a note. The note that is under them has been increased say from a quaver to a crotchet. So you will find a measure that was say originally written with 8 quavers. Next time I open the score some of these notes will have these 'hooks' and the measure will have the equivalent of 9 quavers or more , with each note under the hook shown as a crotchet. So the measure will now appear to have more notes than it should. You can't delete these hooks. I have found out that you can delete the note (a crotchet, under the hook. The hook then disappears and a quaver rest appears. You can then put the original correct quaver not in. Doing this is very tedious especially when 10 or more measures have a number of notes with these 'hooks' . If you right click on these hooks, a hook menu appears, which has as on of the options, delete, but this has no effect on the 'hook'.

Henry

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